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re: (OT) Who will win the presidency?
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:40 pm to gatorhata9
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:40 pm to gatorhata9
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It doesn't move the needle in a presidential election one way or the other.
Not in the popular vote - but small pockets in swing states can definitely swing elections because of how the electoral college works. You effect one state and that could be enough.
Also, this is a straw man argument anyway. The fact is that proof of ID should be required as it is for almost everything else. Whether or not it isn't a major issue is irrelevant.
Again - if it's so irrelevant why is the DNC up in arms and litigating this issue?
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:44 pm to SquatchDawg
Just noting. We've got a close election going on up in here.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:48 pm to SquatchDawg
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Not in the popular vote - but small pockets in swing states can definitely swing elections because of how the electoral college works. You effect one state and that could be enough.
Yes, and we've already addressed that these examples of voter fraud are happening in areas where there aren't close elections.
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The fact is that proof of ID should be required as it is for almost everything else.
Then, by the constitution, you'd have to make it free. Even if ID cards cost $1 you wouldn't be able to enforce them as that is considered a poll tax, which is unconstitutional. I get what you're saying and I tend to agree, that's just the challenge there.
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Again - if it's so irrelevant why is the DNC up in arms and litigating this issue?
Litigating voter ID issue? So they can pander to minorities that they feel it disenfranchises. Has less to do with voter fraud and more to do with strengthening their stronghold in minorities.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:49 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:DNC isn't against more stringent voter ID laws to help allow voter fraud, they're against it because that could disenfranchise millions of voters who vote for them at a very high rate. The RNC is so pro stringent ID laws because it's easier to disenfranchise voters who they can't get to vote for them, rather than do more to convince them to vote red.
Also, this is a straw man argument anyway. The fact is that proof of ID should be required as it is for almost everything else. Whether or not it isn't a major issue is irrelevant.
Again - if it's so irrelevant why is the DNC up in arms and litigating this issue?
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