re: How far does Bama fall when Saban leaves?

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man, you couldn't be more incorrect. the head coach makes ALL the difference in the world. I could give you 50 years of examples. starting when the bear left bama, how about carrol leaving usc, notre dame, Miami, etc, etc.

bama has not always been a great team. take away the time of bear Bryant and nick saban and they've been a "normal" team or worse. they were wandering in the wilderness when they hired saban.

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You ever heard of Wallace Wade or Frank Thomas? How many decades have Alabama gone without 10-win seasons. Hell man, Alabama has beaten LSU 2 out of 3 times throughout the entire history of the series!