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When we reviewed the spot and lost a foot

Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:29 am
Posted by GwoodReb28
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:29 am
i could have almost guaranteed that we would punt and lose on a return or bad snap or something retarded. how could I have ever doubted Freezus. I beg of forgiveness
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 10:30 am
Posted by Wanderin Reb
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:44 am to
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i could have almost guaranteed that we would punt and lose on a return or bad snap or something retarded. how could I have ever doubted Freezus. I beg of forgiveness


Going for it there was absolutely the right call.

That damn package with Liggins was questionable. Bama saw that coming a mile away and NO ONE (aside from maybe LSU and UGA) are running it up the middle on that front 7 this season.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:15 am to
Yup outside of putting Liggins in going for it on 4th down was completely the right call
Posted by FDOM
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:18 am to
should have handed it on the end around like we scored on earlier....when folks know what your doing its easier to defend
Posted by TSUNRebel
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:55 am to
Exactly,
the formation loses it's advantage unless you occasionally deviate. Hand it off or pass out of the formation.
Posted by GwoodReb28
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:59 am to
Would Texas ever come after Hugh Freeze?
Posted by Wanderin Reb
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:07 pm to
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Would Texas ever come after Hugh Freeze?


Yeah but I don't think they get him. He's a hometown boy and we're willing to pay up.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Yeah but I don't think they get him. He's a hometown boy and we're willing to pay up.

Are you telling me that if they offered him 10y/$100m and the best we can offer is 4y/$35m....you honestly think he would stay?
Posted by GwoodReb28
The Heart of the Delta
Member since Sep 2015
177 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:29 pm to
Didn't we just give freeze a big raise
Posted by Wanderin Reb
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Are you telling me that if they offered him 10y/$100m and the best we can offer is 4y/$35m....you honestly think he would stay?


That's a lot of money, but realistically, what's he gonna do with that, that he can't do with 4-5M a year in Oxford?

Hugh is a simple man who loves God, his family, football, and bass fishing. He has everything he needs here, I think.

EDIT - I should also add the differences in expectations at the two programs.

If Freeze wins the SEC here, he's golden. Just making the playoffs would be more than almost any other coach has ever done here and he would cement his place next to JHV as one of the tGOATs here, and maybe even in the conference. At Texas, if he doesn't win a Natty every year he's out the door in 3 years.

Also, conference competition - the SEC is still the greatest conference right now, even if it's being challenged by the B1G and the Pac 12. The Big 12, on the other hand, is an absolute shite show. Why any coach in the SEC would go to a program there is beyond me. It's poorly managed, shitty conference.
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted by GwoodReb28
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:31 pm to
I hear they got big bass in Texas lol
Posted by Doresrules
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:56 pm to
He isn't going to Texas. For one they wouldn't think he was good enough for Texas.

I also think Strong is making that team better. That fan base just has to be patient. They looked better last night. Felt bad for them with that missed extra point.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:59 pm to
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That fan base just has to be patient.


That's something Texas fans are not
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 1:05 pm to
Bigger concern for me is why not just line up under center and fall forward. Qb sneak is not that hard of a play. I hate snapping it 4 yards back and giving DL time to push line back. We only needed a few inches before the review.
Posted by GwoodReb28
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 1:26 pm to
I thought it was a bad decision to look at that play on review, I would love to ask the guy who said over headset to freeze to call timeout and challenge that spot what he saw. And I agree, on fourth and less than a yard to go in the shotgun makes no sense to me, seems like more can go wrong with a snap and your trying to surge 3.5 yards when all you need is a foot. Freeze went for it because he didn't want to risk them blocking a fg attempt so I agree with the call, just not really how I would have liked to see it executed.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Are you telling me that if they offered him 10y/$100m and the best we can offer is 4y/$35m....you honestly think he would stay?


Get out of here with that bullshite, holy hell.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:21 pm to
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Get out of here with that bullshite, holy hell.


What part of that is bullshite? Are you saying that if CHF runs the table this year and Strong goes 6-6 that scenario is out of the question? I think it's unlikely we win it all. But if we do, I think it will be hard to keep him. There are a handful of programs that can offer $100m. We can't come close to that kind of package.
Posted by WhistlinDixie15
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:27 pm to
The part you're not taking into account is that freeze understands the MS legislation which prevents contracts >4 years... So we could match their yearly pay, but without the (legal) long term commitment in the event we begin looking to new coaches
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:58 pm to
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The part you're not taking into account

Actually, that's the part that I am taking into account. Let's say TX offers 10x$10m. The best we can do I would guess would be 4x$8m. That's 100 vs 32 from a package value. The problem with our 4-year limit is that coaching is a volatile business. We thought Nutt was our savior when he took us from the depths of the O-Zone to 2 straight Cotton Bowls. Then, two years later he was gone.

The key number in these contract isn't salary per year. The key number is the guaranteed amount. We can't guarantee more than 4 years. TX or Penn State or Florida can guarantee a full 10 year deal. Their guaranteed value will be roughly 3x our guaranteed value.

Plus, the endorsements, business deals, side deals, etc in Penn, Florida, Texas will be many times what they are in MS. That is probably worth another $50-100m. As an example, Saban was able to purchase a Mercedes dealership for book value and Bryant Bank financed 100% of it. Saban never put down a dime of his own money. That dealership is worth $25 million today.

And when Saban got into trouble on some RE deals that he brought with him from the NFL, Bryant Bank magically made those all better.

We can't compete with that. And that's just over in Alabama. Can you imagine what those deals will look like in states with some of the biggest economies in the world? You're talking about the kind of money that sets your family up for multiple generations.

Freeze would have a hard time passing that up. Anyone would.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9394 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:08 pm to
I believe Freeze is a humble man and is coaching at his dream school. It's not just a job for him. It's him doing EXACTLY what he wants in life. I mean he keeps taking us this direction and down the road his name will be on street signs and have buildings named after him. Then to top it off he is already getting paid big time cash money.

If he were to go anywhere else it's not longer him living his dream. It's him taking a new job. Those two are not anywhere near the same thing.
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