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re: Alabama Governor Bentley has Confederate flags removed from Capitol grounds

Posted on 6/26/15 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by PikeBishop
Bristol, TN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 7:56 pm to
I visited Montgomery in the early 1990s. But have not been back since. I took a tour of the state capitol. I don't remember seeing this flag. I don't think the tour guide talked about it. If it was there, they certainly weren't making a big show out of its presence.

I do remember there being a marker at the top of the steps indicating where Jefferson Davis took the oath of office as President of the CSA. But you would have overlooked it if you weren't observant.

This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 7:57 pm
Posted by PikeBishop
Bristol, TN
Member since Feb 2014
975 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:51 pm to
I'm reading where people are saying things like "now they will want to tear down monuments to soldiers" and what not. I don't think so. It's not like where people in Poland were knocking down statues of Lenin after the Red Army leaves.

We didn't have governors and legislatures in the 1960s using soldiers' monuments as props for the defense of Segregation and Jim Crow. I've not seen the Klan or other extremists making a big deal out of a monument to the dead of some TN Infantry regiment at Shiloh.

Just a whole different dynamic going on with the flag. They should have kept the flag out of it in the 1960s if they didn't want it to be linked with contemporary opposition to civil rights and equality for all citizens.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

I visited Montgomery in the early 1990s. But have not been back since. I took a tour of the state capitol. I don't remember seeing this flag. I don't think the tour guide talked about it. If it was there, they certainly weren't making a big show out of its presence.

I do remember there being a marker at the top of the steps indicating where Jefferson Davis took the oath of office as President of the CSA. But you would have overlooked it if you weren't observant.



It wasn't on the capitol. They were flown next to a confederate monument on the downhill side of the property. It was easy to miss if you didn't know it was there. I used to work a block from it, and you couldn't get a view of it from the roads. Lots of trees on that side of the property.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I visited Montgomery in the early 1990s. But have not been back since. I took a tour of the state capitol. I don't remember seeing this flag. I don't think the tour guide talked about it. If it was there, they certainly weren't making a big show out of its presence


If you were there before 1993, you'd have seen a bigassed naval ensign flying over the capitol. It flew from 1963-1993. George Wallace had it raised during his fights with the feds.

It was removed in 1993 and small but historically correct flags were raised at the monument basically to appease those that wanted to keep one over the dome.

To be honest, no matter what you think those flags stood for then or today, nobody really has a reason to be upset over their removal because for the first century after the end of the war, they weren't flown at the capitol. They were only raised as a symbol of defiance in the face of the federal government over integration and other civil rights issues. I can't speak to the situation in other states, but in Alabama, no longstanding tradition was eliminated. Instead, things were actually set back to normal.
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