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re: Would Bama have won as much or more with Manziel at QB instead of McCarron?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Only someone who doesn't understand football would call Johnny Manziel all hype(as far as cfb). He played 2 years and has the 1st and 2nd greatest single season in sec history. And don't give me that bullshite about him being left in and that's the only reason. I showed you that A&M finished top 5 both year in yards per play.
He was left in. I showed you the stats of what he did against bad teams. Putting up 5 and 6 TDs against 2 FCS schools in the same year is a text book example of stat padding.
7 total TDs against the top 5 teams he faced. 7 total. Barely more than 1 TD per game.
Meanwhile, for the other 7 games? 36 TDs. For an average of basically 5 TD's per game.
That is a huge difference and you can ignore that all you want. But to me, it was no surprise he failed hard in the NFL because it was clear all along that he struggles against real defenses.
Yeah, it happens with all players to a degree. But in the end, the stats you mention depend largely on if the coach is willing to leave their starters in for that long. A&M did leave them in longer than other teams.
There have been lots of QB's that Manziel "beat" for those records who simply did not play as long because the team cares about the scoreboard, not individual QB awards.
It's not like I think he was a bad QB. But if that ain't a hype up record, then I don't know what is.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 5:09 pm
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 6:50 pm to 3down10
So do think it's a good idea for a coach to get a freshman qb as many reps as he can? Heading into sec play? Discussing football with you is fun.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:19 pm to 3down10
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7 total TDs against the top 5 teams he faced. 7 total. Barely more than 1 TD per game.
69% completion rate for 241yds/game passing, and 87 yds/game rushing, in those 5 games. if you extrapolated those 5 games out to 12, you would have played the hardest schedule likely in the history of college football. 2 BCS teams, a peach bowl LSU team, and the miss schools were bowling as well. since we are only discussing what lead to the heisman, your "5 best teams" also leaves out a 516 yard, 4 TD performance against an oklahoma team that finished(?) ranked #15 in teh AP.
for all of your cupcake talk, a&m ended up playing the 6th toughest SOS in the country in 2012 per sagarin.
oklahoma, lsu, florida, and bama all ended up ranked in sagarin's top 12.
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