re: Would Bama have won as much or more with Manziel at QB instead of McCarron?

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And I proved that to be true.

He put up huge numbers against crappy teams, struggled against better defenses where the unorganized play doesn't work as well

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(just like the pros)

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this conversation is not, and has not, been about the pros. we have been speaking specifically about his 2012 season.

also, regarding your "he didn't have good games against better defenses like bama, but the game he won agaisnt bama moved him to the front of the heisman list" argument, here is his stat line from that game:

24/31 (77%) for 253, 2 TDs, 0 ints passing
18 carries for 92 yards rushing

he did not have a good game agasint florida, in the first game of the new program, and he didn't have a good game agasint lsu. he was phenomenal in all of the other games he played in.