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re: Mississippi State to Require Personal Finance/Dave Ramsey of all athletes

Posted on 6/10/15 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 3:58 pm to
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to be honest this is shite that should be taught at the High School level not at the college level.


Yeah, but it's not being done, so the universities should just ignore it? Well it isn't something we should have to do so we're just not going to do it.

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A special course on it is fine but requiring all athletes to take it operates under the assumption that student athletes are both different and dumber than the student body.


Well...

Also, Some of these athletes are going to be making far more money than the rest of the "student body".

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Can you imagine Josh Dobbs (aerospace engineering major), Todd Kelly Jr. (biomedical engineering major) or Cam Sutton (pharmacy major) having to take this class? Not all athletes are dumb and the NFL and other pro athletes that spend all their money do so as much out of lifestyle as anything else.


I know you don't think this is the norm among student athletes. You are a lot smarter than that.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 4:22 pm to
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I know you don't think this is the norm among student athletes. You are a lot smarter than that.


It's actually more the norm than folks think. Student athletes come from several sports not just football BUT even if we just take football there's an NCAA limit of 85 on scholarship players (often called a roster limit but that's kind of a misnomer) + ~20 or so walkons for a total of 105 players. The majority aren't dumb. Not saying a lot aren't but not the majority. I know as I've taught them and seen behind the curtain there - even star players aren't dumbasses like people think although many are lazy. The worst are the ones who don't bother to show up (happens more than you think). I've even seen ones who didn't show up for tests (they were on some suicide mission in terms of academics because in the age of the prof/lecturer/GTA turning grades in electronically and directly where they go up instantly for students to see it's harder and harder for ADs to openly cheat without a seriously corrupt system - paper classes like UNC).

However, universities have gotten a lot better about academic support and not cheating (maybe because it's harder to get away with now; maybe because the new support systems have been more successful) and you can tell right away when someone writes a paper for someone else or plagiarizes.

You would be surprised at what those of us who have been there see. It's never who you would 'stereotype' not even in the non-athlete student body. It's never who you suspect. I learned that right away teaching students of all stripes including athletes.
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