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re: Do you think God controls the weather?
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:55 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:55 pm to the808bass
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You've now tackled the problem of pain, the problem of miracles and the inspiration of Christian scripture in 3 pages of your "simple" response.
To be clear, I backed off on that statement because, as I said, it was a jab.
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It's not odd to think it's a strong argument when you actually see it worked out time and again in real life rather than in the mental masturbations of an atheist.
You either don't understand or are simply choosing not to. I explained why saying "god did it" would take away from the true human emotion in the situation. The fact that you disagree (because of, I'm assuming, anecdotal reasons) does not mean you are correct.
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So, to be clear, you're asserting the presence of death is a convincing argument against the existence of God?
No, I'm asserting that the presence of meaningless and horrible deaths due to weather/natural disasters (2004 Tsunami, let's say) is a convincing argument against the existence of a loving god who can intervene.
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 11:00 pm
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:22 am to rbWarEagle
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You either don't understand or are simply choosing not to. I explained why saying "god did it" would take away from the true human emotion in the situation. The fact that you disagree (because of, I'm assuming, anecdotal reasons) does not mean you are correct.
But you're equating "your" theory to some sort of scientific basis while pretending my assertion is "just" anecdotal evidence. Know what lots of anecdotes gathered together is? Data.
My friend, George, started a non-profit to work in a small town in Guatemala a few years back. And in those interim years, the non-profit has built over 20 homes for widows, started a vocational school, refurbished and supplied a special-needs school and updated and upgraded a local school. Does George have a better idea of the effects of a Christian worldview on the attitude towards others' plight than Sam Harris? He does. And he serves because of it. If I told you the name of George's organization, you would have never heard of it. Because it's one of thousands and thousands of similar organizations.
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No, I'm asserting that the presence of meaningless and horrible deaths
Ok. Let's assume God intervenes in these catastrophes and doesn't allow them to happen. What's the cutoff for you? Can 3 people die in a traffic accident? Can 10 people die of hemmorhagic fever? Where does God need to intervene and where can he stop to keep you happy about the situation?
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