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re: Fox Sports: Longhorns need A&M

Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by oman
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:55 pm to
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Texas A&M is top 10 in the country in endowments now. We are one of the best in the world for putting people into the Energy industry too. We have a host of extremely strong programs. If you think we are some farm school with a few bright spots in chicken raising and some niche engineering, guess again. Our ranking is skewed by the fact we invest little into our liberal arts areas. They are basically second rate citizens on campus. I could go on and on but frankly, I don't really feel the need to impress you, nor do you really want to hear i


I'd like to hear you defend your post. In 1997 A&M was ranked 48th among national universities in USN&W Report. In 2014 they were 68th.

No argument from me that rankings can be useless and skewed but the idea that A&M has made some big noticeable jump in academic reputation isn't really supported by many facts.

Great supportive alumni base, and solid as hell down the line. Just as it was 20 years ago.
Posted by LegacyAggie
Member since Sep 2011
691 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:23 pm to
Size of the enrollment has basically doubled (which helps with the PUF), size of endowments, size of research monies, establishment of campus' abroad in both Tel Aviv, Israel (only U.S. university to have a campus in Israel..we are doing tech sharing with them) as well as Qatar. The Bush School of Intl Affairs is very good and new as well. The skew will likely come from idiot neocon statements by politicians which punished A&M, the acceptance rate skew (which is frustrating because despite the appearance of a high rate, it's much harder to get in now), and the fact we don't give a shite about liberal arts. A&M grads make more than UT grads on average, thats been posted. I think it was a Stanford recruiting tool where they showed average salary after X years Stanford was obviously #1 but yeah. They also bought a law school like what..2 years ago? It was a lesser one but like anything, they are building it up but it has a rankings hit. This was because the leg didn't want to build another one so like other places (Michigan St. buying Detroit Law School etc), we bought one. In terms of real world employment etc., we are significantly better off. We have one of the best ROIs, being both fairly affordable to most other schools while also giving most of our students, especially in STEM and business great careers. I really don't have the time to flesh all of that out to be honest, but that would be my assessment. It's much better for employment and opportunities in general than ever before.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81363 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:05 pm to
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I'd like to hear you defend your post. In 1997 A&M was ranked 48th among national universities in USN&W Report. In 2014 they were 68th.


I can tell you exactly what caused that.

1. The dropping of the journalism program in 2004

2. The increase in enrollment by nearly 11,000 since 1997. Student to professor ratio is a HUGE factor in those rankings

3. 10% admission requirement. That sounds like it would increase numbers, but has the opposite effect, especially when you factor in the rural areas. I believe Texas has had a similar drop in ratings as a result.

4. Absolute refusal to adhere to certain metrics that USNWR wants in order to raise their ratings.
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