Just getting back to this thread. MMR is just one vaccine, now pediatricians are pushing parents to give their kids dozens of them, typically at the same time and in various combination cocktails. Then you have annual flu vaccines. It's just a lot to introduce into the system of a healthy child and not all vaccines are as thoroughly tested as others. Every vaccine has a certain percentage of patients that will have adverse reactions as well, some more serious than others. The most common symptom is a fever, especially when multiple vaccines are given at the same time.

My main point is that it is a lot more complicated than just saying any parent that doesn't vaccinate their child with every vaccine the Dr has available isn't crazy. Are the increased number of vaccinations related to the increases in autoimmune diseases and other ailments such as autism? We just don't know for sure, there is no scientific proof as of yet.

What is certain is that some things we do medically today are bound to be considered crazy decades from now just as they were in the past. For instance when my Mom was pregnant the first time she had a miscarriage and then for her second pregnancy they gave her a cocktail of medications that they would never consider today. My sister was born premature and has health issues to this day. When both of us were kids they actually encouraged Moms to feed their kids formula over breast milk. My Mom is an RN btw.

People just need to be informed and look at all the information out there and make their own decisions. Maybe my son would have developed Type 1 had he never gotten a vaccination, we will never know. Interestingly enough now they are showing some signs of progress in potentially reversing Type 1 using the tuberculosis vaccine (which kids are no longer vaccinated with typically in the US). There is real hope for reversal of Type 1 with this and other methods and there has been at least some success in reversing Type 1 in a few people. Medical science is ever evolving.

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Posted by cokebottleag

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Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:36 am to aggressor

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Medical science is ever evolving

Agreed. However, we have to go with what we know right now. Rubella has major health problems even for survivors including hardening of the heart muscles. Measles is highly contagious and deadly. Mumps causes sterility in survivors. Polio was a major cause of paralysis and death in children. TB used to kill millions.

Immunizations aren't perfect and never have been. But the health problems of today are growing for a whole host of reasons we don't fully understand. You mentioned Celiac, which is an allergy to Gluten. Some interesting research recently has suggested food allergies in general may be caused by the increase in our use of anti-biotics in children, as these anti-biotics will kill off strains in our digestive tract which absorb or change the proteins in peanuts, gluten, etc. We don't fully know which bacteria does what, so we don't know what needs to be replaced.

You can find the research here: LINK

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Posted by TeLeFaWx

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Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:37 am to aggressor

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My main point is that it is a lot more complicated than just saying any parent that doesn't vaccinate their child with every vaccine the Dr has available isn't crazy. Are the increased number of vaccinations related to the increases in autoimmune diseases and other ailments such as autism? We just don't know for sure, there is no scientific proof as of yet.

There is just as much evidence that vaccines cause autism as there is that vaccines cause anything else. Which is the dangerous part. We are talking about not vaccinating our society against deadly diseases based on nothing but a whim. I understand where you're coming from, but this is life and death. We are at the point where kids are getting deadly disease based off nothing but fear mongering. I just can't see a reason not to vaccinate for fear of autism when there is no evidence that suggests it. If there was. Even a very loose connection? Maybe. But no one needs to lose their life because the process of vaccination, something that has successfully been implemented across the world in a variety of forms for hundreds of years, is suddenly undermined based on Jenny McCarthy and a discredited doctor's false report. I just can't get behind that.

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