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Posted on 4/6/15 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 6:50 pm to
Lots of ignorance on this thread.

I used to be just like many of you and thought that people were crazy for not getting every possible immunization for their kids. I mean it is the safe and responsible thing, right?

Then when my youngest son turned 5 he developed Type 1 Diabetes. For those of you who don't know Type 1 Diabetes is an autoimmune disease that is caused by a virus that enters your body and in the process of fighting the virus your body turns on itself and attacks the insulin producing part of your pancreas. He is 100% insulin dependent as his body makes no insulin.

The odd thing was that my wife and I both had no history of diabetes in our family. We went and did a blood test and got genetically checked for the disease and both of us were negative to the "markers" that are found to cause it. Then we realized that we had, like good parents are supposed to do, gotten every possible immunization of our child to keep him "healthy". We ignored little things like fevers and minor sicknesses our children often had after immunizations as "normal". Eventually we realized that our son had been given a triple immunization just a few months before his diagnosis, immunizations that were essentially just viruses planted in our son's system.

There is no way to prove if that is what caused him to develop Type 1 or not but there is certainly enough evidence to make me wonder. The more I read about how vaccines are developed and approved certainly didn't make me feel any better about it. They keep coming up with more and more vaccines to inject healthy children with for obscure diseases. Is it really crazy to think that at some point it may not be the healthiest thing, especially some of the newer vaccines?

I also have a very good friend that is an Air Force pilot. He was given every immunization under the sun because he traveled to every craphole you can imagine. He started feeling listless and sick and after extensive testing they found it to be the cocktail of immunizations he had been given over the years as the culprit. He has to deal with some of the health problems for the rest of his life, though he will likely get disability pay after he retires.

All I am saying is that you should be careful and research every vaccination you have, often times they are more experiment than real science. They are well intended but in the end you are injecting millions of people with various viruses and chemicals in hopes that you will prevent illness. Realize as well though that some who get the vaccine never needed it but will be harmed by it. They even have a government agency that specifically deals with vaccine compensation to avoid the traditional lawsuits you have to engage to sue over injury from vaccines. In our case Type 1 Diabetes is still under investigation as to whether it can be caused by vaccines or not, but with more Type 1 diagnoses every year and at an increasing level it seems to be more than a coincidence. The same issue can be said for all autoimmune diseases from Celiac to Lupus that are on the rise.

Maybe it is all coincidence but to say a parent that doesn't want to inject their child with every vaccine they dream up is committing "child abuse" is incredibly naive.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 7:14 pm to
So have the percentage of children getting the MMR vaccine risen incidentally with people developing diabetes and Celiac's? We've been giving people the MMR vaccine for generations, haven't we? Measles is a deadly disease.

I'm not discounting what you're saying, but I just don't get why someone would be against a vaccination against measles, and even assuming every anecdotal story of someone developing problems associated with vaccine to be true, how would this outweigh the risk of outbreaks of measles which are not anecdotal at all, they have in fact happened.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:14 pm to
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