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re: Just how good is Hugh Freeze, really?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Snead4Heisman
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Fact is that even in his very BEST season, he still had 4 losses He has yet to post a season with less than 4 losses.


This is dumb. Really dumb. In 2013, you're statement would have been the above statement but replaced 4 with 6.

In 2014, your statement would have been the above statement but replaced 6 with 5.

Now, the 5 is replaced with 4.

Your point is retarded until he has a season that is actually worse than a past season.

Freeze has some work to do on his gameday coaching, but what the hell do you expect? He went straight to head coaching and he's incredibly young. He took over a 2-10(TWO frickING WINS) team. Any negative on Freeze is premature and downright dumb AF right now.

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2012: 7-6 with losses to texas (35 points!), bama, a&m, uga, VANDERBILT, and LSu. won the compass bowl in birmingham.
notable wins: arkansas?


Ummm, Vandy was a top 25 team with 9 wins. We lost on last second plays against A&M, Vandy, and lost to LSU because of a botched punt. That's three plays at the end of the game(saying this to point out that Freeze took over a 2-10 team that had less than 50 scholarship players left on roster). We could have been 10-3 a year following 2-10 with no talent left.

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2013: 8-5 with losses to bama, Auburn, a&m, mizzou, and state. beat ga tech in music city.
notable wins: LSU


Year two and beat @Vandy(top 25 team), #6 LSU, @Texas, while losing on a last second play to a&m again. A play away from potentially beating @AU, who went on to the NC game.

Year three and ranked as high as #3. Beat two #1 teams, lost by 3 @LSU, lost on a freak play to AU, and got drummed by Ark and TCU due to injuries and huge morale hit. Attended an NYE6 bowl game. LSU rushed the field.

If you're basing your 6.5/10 off what he has done thus far, you're a fricking idiot...and that's probably putting it extremely lightly.

Want a real discussion? I'd love your breakdown of what Gus has done at Auburn. THREE MORE LOSSES FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR TWO?!?!?!? YIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Posted by Snead4Heisman
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Posted by NeverToYield
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:13 pm to
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In 2014, your statement would have been the above statement but replaced 6 with 5.

Now, the 5 is replaced with 4.


You can compare the numbers all you want, but we're still talking about actual losses. He hasn't had a season wiht less than 4 losses, fact. 4 losses is not a good season, is it?

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Any negative on Freeze is premature and downright dumb AF right now.


It's been 3 years, not 1. And the thread was asking others how good is he. I never said he sucks and is the worst coach I've ever seen. If 3 years isn't long enough to evaluate a coach, when is? 5 years, 10? Or is it when they finally have a breakthrough season that enough time has passed?

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Ummm, Vandy was a top 25 team with 9 wins


they're still vanderbilt football. they shouldn't beat real SEC teams, just like UK basketball shouldnt' ever lose to SC basketball.

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We lost on last second plays against A&M, Vandy, and lost to LSU because of a botched punt.


ok? And? Hell if it weren't for the last FSU drive we'd be national champs right?

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We could have been 10-3


yet real life shows that you actually did go 7-6.

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losing on a last second play to a&m again. A play away from potentially beating @AU


most of what you're saying is a hell of a lot of "we almost"s.

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Year three and ranked as high as #3. Beat two #1 teams


I have, in this thread, said that ole miss looked like a CFP contender early on, and were one of the most surprising teams in the country.

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lost by 3 @LSU, lost on a freak play to AU,


more "almost"s

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If you're basing your 6.5/10 off what he has done thus far, you're a fricking idiot...and that's probably putting it extremely lightly.


I'll ask again, what is the standard accepted baseline for when we're allowed to evaluate coaches, when you say so? 3 years is ample time.

And in fact, based on what has already been said and the fact he hasn't finished better than 3rd in his division, I think a ranking bordering on 7/10 is pretty generous.

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