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re: Can we agree to the following method for National Champions? The SECR Method
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:58 pm to TriumphTiger
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:58 pm to TriumphTiger
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AP named the champion before the bowl games until 1968 (with the exception of 1965), which makes any championship by a bowl loser suspect in my opinion.
It's a bit unfair to penalize some teams for losing a bowl after being awarded a title, and not do the same for teams that refused to even play in bowl games. ND didn't risk anything after being awarded most of their titles. You can call it smart or cowardly or whatever, but the same bowl-win standard should be applied to everyone imho.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:33 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
That would be quite a long list.
36 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
37 Pittsburgh no bowl
40 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
41 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
42 Ohio State no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
43 Notre Dame no bowl
44 Army no bowl
45 Army no bowl
46 Notre Dame no bowl
47 Notre Dame no bowl
48 Michigan (B10 teams weren't allowed to be in consecutive Rose Bowls)
49 Notre Dame no bowl
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl (not sure why)
57 Auburn banned
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
74 Oklahoma banned
Edit: And if you add in the Coaches poll:
54 UCLA no bowl (P12 repeat rule)
65 Michigan State lost bowl
70 Texas lost bowl
73 Alabama lost bowl
36 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
37 Pittsburgh no bowl
40 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
41 Minnesota no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
42 Ohio State no bowl (B10 teams weren't allowed)
43 Notre Dame no bowl
44 Army no bowl
45 Army no bowl
46 Notre Dame no bowl
47 Notre Dame no bowl
48 Michigan (B10 teams weren't allowed to be in consecutive Rose Bowls)
49 Notre Dame no bowl
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl (not sure why)
57 Auburn banned
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
74 Oklahoma banned
Edit: And if you add in the Coaches poll:
54 UCLA no bowl (P12 repeat rule)
65 Michigan State lost bowl
70 Texas lost bowl
73 Alabama lost bowl
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:57 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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It's a bit unfair to penalize some teams for losing a bowl after being awarded a title, and not do the same for teams that refused to even play in bowl games. ND didn't risk anything after being awarded most of their titles. You can call it smart or cowardly or whatever, but the same bowl-win standard should be applied to everyone imho.
An AP title is the gold standard prior to the BCS era, regardless of when in the season it was awarded (in spite of my post). It is what it is.
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