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re: Vandy rape case: Juror on trial failed to disclose rape from 20 years ago
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:10 am to Killean
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:10 am to Killean
But can you hold a minority accountable for his or her actions? Your posts in this thread seem to indicate that you will excuse anything away due to racism by whites.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:17 am to I-59 Tiger
No, that's what you're taking from it just because I don't think white people are automatically guiltless just like black people aren't automatically guilty.
The first guy made the argument that all of the problems that black people face is because of other black people. That's a retarded argument. Quit trying to pass the buck and actually accept some responsibility for some of the world's problems and try to fix it rather than blaming everybody else for things being bad.
These are independent facts that can exist all at the same time:
1. Batey is a rapist and deserves to be in prison a long time.
2. Black people often cause problems for the black community.
3. Racism exists and it is a problem.
4. People who blame racism for things aren't always right.
5. People who blame racism for things aren't always wrong.
6. Racism can exist between any group.
7. Being a minority doesn't mean you're immune from being a racist.
8. Having minority friends doesn't mean you're not a racist.
9. EXTREMISTS in all religions and groups are the problem.
The first guy made the argument that all of the problems that black people face is because of other black people. That's a retarded argument. Quit trying to pass the buck and actually accept some responsibility for some of the world's problems and try to fix it rather than blaming everybody else for things being bad.
These are independent facts that can exist all at the same time:
1. Batey is a rapist and deserves to be in prison a long time.
2. Black people often cause problems for the black community.
3. Racism exists and it is a problem.
4. People who blame racism for things aren't always right.
5. People who blame racism for things aren't always wrong.
6. Racism can exist between any group.
7. Being a minority doesn't mean you're immune from being a racist.
8. Having minority friends doesn't mean you're not a racist.
9. EXTREMISTS in all religions and groups are the problem.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:18 am to I-59 Tiger
He says:
You follow:
What? His action was rape and the poster applauds the consequence of prison.
There's no need for a hate crime here and they'd have to show the defendant decided to rape her because she was white. Saying something hateful in the act doesn't mean that hate is why he did it. Charging for a hate crime turns up the media heat, makes it about race, and opens up more avenues for appeal. So the DA made the reasonable choice to hit them on the rape charges that were a slam dunk. That's just good prosecuting.
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I don't think being white or black has a bearing on his actions. He's a rapist and he's going to prison.
You follow:
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But can you hold a minority accountable for his or her actions?
What? His action was rape and the poster applauds the consequence of prison.
There's no need for a hate crime here and they'd have to show the defendant decided to rape her because she was white. Saying something hateful in the act doesn't mean that hate is why he did it. Charging for a hate crime turns up the media heat, makes it about race, and opens up more avenues for appeal. So the DA made the reasonable choice to hit them on the rape charges that were a slam dunk. That's just good prosecuting.
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