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re: Offense Fix
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:39 am to tmc94
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:39 am to tmc94
Just looking at Sumlin offenses dating all the way back to A&M after he took over for babers the common denominator is an aspect of tempo. Now this part is a guess on my part but he may see the need of the defense facing a more pro style attack in practice to succeed in conference so why not keep the advantages he loves with tempo but adapt to a more physical style offense.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:03 pm to AgBQ00
ok, well, a few things...
1) Pro Style term was coined back in the 70/80s when most teams ran the same offense in the NFL. Today, that isn't really true. Many different offenses are run so the term is somewhat generic. I'm going to assume you are talking 90s Cowboys with 21 personnel as a base
2) Sumlin is pretty head strong. He doesn't much care what other people think and based on my understanding honestly doesn't believe what you stated about needing a kind of offense to develop a defense. In fact he rejects it out of hand (for good or bad). He has a vision and he sells it every day
3) the current roster is not well stocked to run 21 personnel. We have no real fullback or TE. We'll have a hybrid TE in Jordan Davis next year but not a true inline guy (Cam Clear was that guy). We could certainly adapt, but those offenses are rarely great without elite players at those positions.
4) We aren't recruiting to it now so there is no evidence we are moving the offense at all. I think Sumlin will adapt to his personnel. It's his way. But he picks that personnel. If he's able to get a kid like Kaden Smith in 2016, I think we'd see more 11 personnel packages. But I don't think he's going to shoehorn the current roster into a new offense
A lot of Ags have heartburn about this offense and they project a change with no real basis (other than want). Many said we'd never run it when Sumlin was hired. He likes it because
- it's incredible simplicity. It makes it a great college system because you are limited in practice time and there is such roster turnover year to year
- it's easy to recruit to. Things like OL can be fairly interchangeable which is important and allows you to recruit the best (mostly OT). WRs while they look for certain skill sets, are much easier to switch positions to get your best personnel. With 1 TB, 1 FB, 1 TE, 2 WRs, there are so many different kinds of players they aren't very interchangeable on the fly. You are redesigning an offense to do it
There is no magic elixir of an offense. No one way to do things. You can hear Sumlin talk about this. You build a system, recruit to that system, and honestly the good ones make it work. What you don't do is change systems constantly. We've had some rough patches this year, no doubt. But we've also broke in 2 new QBs, quite a few WRs, and our OL had a disappointing year. That's a recipe for disaster in any system.
1) Pro Style term was coined back in the 70/80s when most teams ran the same offense in the NFL. Today, that isn't really true. Many different offenses are run so the term is somewhat generic. I'm going to assume you are talking 90s Cowboys with 21 personnel as a base
2) Sumlin is pretty head strong. He doesn't much care what other people think and based on my understanding honestly doesn't believe what you stated about needing a kind of offense to develop a defense. In fact he rejects it out of hand (for good or bad). He has a vision and he sells it every day
3) the current roster is not well stocked to run 21 personnel. We have no real fullback or TE. We'll have a hybrid TE in Jordan Davis next year but not a true inline guy (Cam Clear was that guy). We could certainly adapt, but those offenses are rarely great without elite players at those positions.
4) We aren't recruiting to it now so there is no evidence we are moving the offense at all. I think Sumlin will adapt to his personnel. It's his way. But he picks that personnel. If he's able to get a kid like Kaden Smith in 2016, I think we'd see more 11 personnel packages. But I don't think he's going to shoehorn the current roster into a new offense
A lot of Ags have heartburn about this offense and they project a change with no real basis (other than want). Many said we'd never run it when Sumlin was hired. He likes it because
- it's incredible simplicity. It makes it a great college system because you are limited in practice time and there is such roster turnover year to year
- it's easy to recruit to. Things like OL can be fairly interchangeable which is important and allows you to recruit the best (mostly OT). WRs while they look for certain skill sets, are much easier to switch positions to get your best personnel. With 1 TB, 1 FB, 1 TE, 2 WRs, there are so many different kinds of players they aren't very interchangeable on the fly. You are redesigning an offense to do it
There is no magic elixir of an offense. No one way to do things. You can hear Sumlin talk about this. You build a system, recruit to that system, and honestly the good ones make it work. What you don't do is change systems constantly. We've had some rough patches this year, no doubt. But we've also broke in 2 new QBs, quite a few WRs, and our OL had a disappointing year. That's a recipe for disaster in any system.
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