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re: Why not move to a 6 team playoff vs. an 8 team playoff?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:35 pm to Chicken
Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:35 pm to Chicken
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with 5 power conferences, 6 is the way to go...even 5 could work...4 vs 5 would be a play-in game
You have,
4 power conferences with CCG's
1 power conference without a CCG
1 IND school who is "half in" a conference
4 CCG's as defacto first round is already in place
2 playoff games are already in place
You already have a 8 team playoff with substitution after the 4 CCG's to patch the final four as needed. Project out 10 - 20 years from now...
Pick A or B for each possibility
ITEM #1
A) Notre Dame will still be IND
or
B) Notre Dame will become a full member of the ACC
ITEM #2
A) Bottom 5 members of the Big 12 will have major brand status
or
B) Bottom 5 members of the Big 12 will still be cellar dwellers
ITEM #3
A) Big 12 will have gotten back to 12 and expanded to new markets by entering new states
or
B) Big 12 will still be at 10 teams and limited markets of OK, KS, IA, and WV
ITEM #4
A) Big 12 will even exist in 10 - 20 years
or
B) PAC 16 becomes a reality and 4 top level Big 12 schools join the PAC
Often overlooked in conference realignment is the true nature is not expansion, but contraction. Fewer top schools mean bigger slices for fewer schools and will pressure bottom lines to increase revenue. Chicago in the B1G, Idaho in the PAC, and Tulane in the SEC are all examples of schools who have dropped out of conferences when keeping up was no longer acceptable.
If you go beyond 4 now, and keep the CCG's, then you are inviting lower conferences a seat at the table which is pretty much what the playoff system was invented to eliminate. The value of a playoff MNC in football is to protect the exclusive nature of the product to protect the long term value. Making the playoff accept more than 4 teams is opening Pandoras Box and that would not bode well long term for the SEC. Thinking more than 4 gets multiple SEC teams in is is not the answer because the rest of the country will resist this.
If your vision is
Team 1 = SEC vs Team 8 = I ND
Team 2 = PAC vs Team 7 = PAC
Team 3 = ACC vs Team 6 = SEC
Team 4 = B1G vs Team 5 = SEC
The reality is probably more like
If your vision is
Team 1 = SEC vs Team 8 = I ND
Team 2 = PAC vs Team 7 = B 12
Team 3 = ACC vs Team 6 = CUSA
Team 4 = B1G vs Team 5 = AAC
Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:48 pm to Cheese Grits
I seriously can't believe someone sane would want a 16 team playoff.
Do you really want to see the same 10-12 teams in the playoff every year with 4 randoms?
The entire regular season becomes a seeding contest.
The field has to be small enough that a single loss could keep you out. And 2 losses almost guarantees you are out.
If you really want 3 and 4 loss teams playing for a national championship you're crazy.
Games like the Egg Bowl and Iron Bowl this year would be absolutely meaningless and hollow, they'd only affect seeding.
Last year's Iron Bowl was huge, in a 16 team playoff nobody would give 2 thoughts about it again once the playoffs started, because Alabama and Auburn would have both been in with high seeds.
The people who want a 16 team playoff just want to see THEIR team in the field, regardless of whether or not they're deserving.
Football isn't like basketball or baseball, you can't play a series of games, it's single elimination.
A huge field would not lead to a better champion, it would lead to a champion determined way more by luck and injuries and what happens in 4 games vs. what happens in 12-13 games.
That's one great thing college football has over the NFL in my opinion. The Super Bowl champion is very often not the best team, or even one of the best 2-3 teams, however the national champion in football is almost always one of the top 2-3, if not usually THE best.
A small field rewards a team for having a good regular season and keeps the regular season games very meaningful.
If you want to see a shitty regular season look at college basketball. "big" games don't matter at all, two top ten teams play late int he year, who cares, they'll both get #1 or #2 seeds, etc.
Do you really want to see the same 10-12 teams in the playoff every year with 4 randoms?
The entire regular season becomes a seeding contest.
The field has to be small enough that a single loss could keep you out. And 2 losses almost guarantees you are out.
If you really want 3 and 4 loss teams playing for a national championship you're crazy.
Games like the Egg Bowl and Iron Bowl this year would be absolutely meaningless and hollow, they'd only affect seeding.
Last year's Iron Bowl was huge, in a 16 team playoff nobody would give 2 thoughts about it again once the playoffs started, because Alabama and Auburn would have both been in with high seeds.
The people who want a 16 team playoff just want to see THEIR team in the field, regardless of whether or not they're deserving.
Football isn't like basketball or baseball, you can't play a series of games, it's single elimination.
A huge field would not lead to a better champion, it would lead to a champion determined way more by luck and injuries and what happens in 4 games vs. what happens in 12-13 games.
That's one great thing college football has over the NFL in my opinion. The Super Bowl champion is very often not the best team, or even one of the best 2-3 teams, however the national champion in football is almost always one of the top 2-3, if not usually THE best.
A small field rewards a team for having a good regular season and keeps the regular season games very meaningful.
If you want to see a shitty regular season look at college basketball. "big" games don't matter at all, two top ten teams play late int he year, who cares, they'll both get #1 or #2 seeds, etc.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 5:50 pm
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