re: Let's be honest, it's best for the SEC if Bama goes to the playoff over MSU

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Until Mullen does it again, State's past and those four and five loss seasons under Mullen are the bulk of the proof for outsiders.

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So, the time period before he got all his own players to campus -- and actually started getting "his" QBs to come to MSU huh?

Tell me -- how many years did it take Beamer to get it going at Va Tech? How many did it take Spurrier at SC? How many did it take Snyder at KState? If we're playing apples to apples -- Mullen has been better than any of those guys in similar jobs at the same snapshot of their careers.