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re: How do you feel about this new feminist ad?

Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:05 pm to
I wasn't arguing, just clarifying my "real feminism is dead" comment.

I certainly didn't mean in other countries. Domestic violence is very tricky for the radical feminists today, because they want extra protection which sort of undermines a lot of their ideals. If Janay Rice is a free, strong, empowered female then she can leave at any time. If you say she's caught in some kind of twisted psychological submission but you don't apply that standard to male abuse victims, it implies women are weaker-minded.

I think the problem is that men and women are very different. Everyone knows that. It's obvious and it's science. And that pisses them off. I really don't know. They're crazy.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:14 pm to
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I wasn't arguing, just clarifying my "real feminism is dead" comment.


I gotcha. And we'll agree to disagree. I think it's still out there even if it's in the minority if that makes sense. Unfortunately people are stupid.

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Domestic violence is very tricky for the radical feminists today, because they want extra protection which sort of undermines a lot of their ideals. If Janay Rice is a free, strong, empowered female then she can leave at any time. If you say she's caught in some kind of twisted psychological submission but you don't apply that standard to male abuse victims, it implies women are weaker-minded.


I can agree with that. I will say that she probably does have psychological issues that typically come with people who have been abused. But if we're going to address her psychological issues then I think it's a disservice to not address the psychological issues that allowed Ray Rice to think it's ok to do that. And it was pretty obvious as a whole that their relationship is dysfunctional on both ends and she's not exactly above putting her hands on him either. As I've said before, she wasn't above blame in that situation especially the way she had no problem trying to smooth it all over afterward. There's just a whole going on there that needs to be addressed. And the NFL dicking around about the issue didn't help matters either.

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I think the problem is that men and women are very different. Everyone knows that. It's obvious and it's science. And that pisses them off. I really don't know. They're crazy.



Men and women are very different. But there's some basic tenants as human beings I think can apply to both, such as respect for your fellow man and women. And addressing that would go a long way to not just empowering women but to empowering men as well (which despite your bra burning femininazi, is ok to do).
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