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re: Is there scientific evidence that some people are born gay?

Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:33 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:33 am to
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You're a piece of work.


Because I'm calling out someone for sticking to a claim that's been proven time and time again to be wrong? How many "Christians" have claimed pray away the gay works and have been full of shite? Lying through their teeth? But THIS guy has seen it work? Sorry. It's a lie. It's always been a lie. Pray away the gay camps have failed time and time again.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:01 am to
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Because I'm calling out someone for sticking to a claim that's been proven time and time again to be wrong? How many "Christians" have claimed pray away the gay works and have been full of shite? Lying through their teeth? But THIS guy has seen it work? Sorry. It's a lie. It's always been a lie. Pray away the gay camps have failed time and time again.




You can't possibly be serious? "Pray away the gay camps" are stupid as frick anyway.

Let's say you are a thief. I want you to quit, so I pray for you to stop. You're not going to stop just because I'm praying for you. God may present things in your life to lead you away from being a thief, but until you make the decision for yourself, no one else's prayer is going to make you quit.

So the first sentence you posted of being proven time and time again to be wrong is what is actually full of shite.
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:53 am to
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Because I'm calling out someone for sticking to a claim that's been proven time and time again to be wrong?

I'm not "sticking to" anything. I'm relaying some anecdotal evidence. "Conversion therapy" or even just a change in self-identification is going to be problematic for anyone. I'd expect it not to "take" for more than a few people. But we have those types of results in all sorts of therapy. To me, that speaks more to the human condition (both positive and negative) than it necessarily speaks to the malleability of sexuality.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:13 pm to
So I'm lying, too, when I say I know someone that has turned away from his gayness?
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