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re: What record saves Muschamp's job?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:30 pm to gatordmb89
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:30 pm to gatordmb89
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The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
Eh, when your entire reason for winning is a defense that you didn't build -- but the reason you lose is an offensive "vision" you had I think that's the big difference.
Take Meyer with Zook personnel. He turned a team that was mediocre on offense and made it a monster and retained the defense.
We didn't really win on scheme, we won on holding on to dear God and hoping the other team didn't score. I said this last time: That can't last. We fooled people for the short term, but then once teams realized we couldn't retain possession they simply beat us at our own game.
Muschamp literally got outschemed by an FCS coach with more injured players than us.
He didn't really scheme anything the year before -- just leaned on the stacked defense he was left with.
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He didn't really scheme anything the year before
Disagree with that completely. In 2012 he was regarded as the best halftime adjustment coach in the country.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
How many yrs did Meyer coach Floyd, Easley, Bostic, Jenkins, and Elam?
UF won games in '12 with TOP and field position.
The main flaw in your entire argument is you discredit WM's coaching at every turn, yet you want to give him full credit for 8 losses.
Also, you are VERY wrong about the defensive scheme and recruits he has brought to UF. 3 straight yrs with a top 10
Defense. Not sure when the last time/if ever that has happened.
I'm not sold on WM being the answer yet, but I give him credit for '12 and the job he and his staff did. So many games that year that I was wow'd by the halftime adjustments.
In '13, he gets the blame. First off, he lost to Miami. Something that should have never happened. Yes, UF turned the ball over a ton, but still lost the game. The rest of the games are meaningless to me because we were playing with Murphy or Mornhinweg, who both sucked. Fast forward to GA Southern, you CANNOT lose that game. Well, UF lost, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of WM. We had guys hurt, etc, don't give a shite, no excuses for losing that game.
Now we are in '14 with the majority of WM recruits and an offensive scheme that will be a hybrid between Fedora and Mullen. This is judgement year.
Your argument is invalid if you make excuses for all the wins in '12, but don't make excuses for the losses in '13.
UF won games in '12 with TOP and field position.
The main flaw in your entire argument is you discredit WM's coaching at every turn, yet you want to give him full credit for 8 losses.
Also, you are VERY wrong about the defensive scheme and recruits he has brought to UF. 3 straight yrs with a top 10
Defense. Not sure when the last time/if ever that has happened.
I'm not sold on WM being the answer yet, but I give him credit for '12 and the job he and his staff did. So many games that year that I was wow'd by the halftime adjustments.
In '13, he gets the blame. First off, he lost to Miami. Something that should have never happened. Yes, UF turned the ball over a ton, but still lost the game. The rest of the games are meaningless to me because we were playing with Murphy or Mornhinweg, who both sucked. Fast forward to GA Southern, you CANNOT lose that game. Well, UF lost, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of WM. We had guys hurt, etc, don't give a shite, no excuses for losing that game.
Now we are in '14 with the majority of WM recruits and an offensive scheme that will be a hybrid between Fedora and Mullen. This is judgement year.
Your argument is invalid if you make excuses for all the wins in '12, but don't make excuses for the losses in '13.
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