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re: What record saves Muschamp's job?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:59 pm to slayerxing
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:59 pm to slayerxing
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Forseen? WTF the head coach at FLorida has to be able to know the future?
Yeah, see below.
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Stop blindly hating.
I think I've given a pretty lucid picture -- stop blindly supporting. Saying "Oh give him a chance" isn't saying shite.
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Pro style obviously has worked other places with great effect.
Very rarely with an entire crew that's geared toward the spread. We had no pro-style players on the team, not a single one.
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He had a vision, but unfortunately, was not able to put together a good enough offensive staff to bring it to fruition.
Maybe it was the direction of the offense, not the staff. He blew through two offensive coordinators who, bizarrely, decided to change their entire offensive philosophy when they came to Florida and ran the exact same offense as each other.
Strange.
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You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have the ability to self analyze enough to change THEIR ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY over the course of one year.
...It's not that hard when you go 4 - 8 and have a season so bad that not a single player was born when the last one happened.
He took a team with several championship ring holders and somehow managed to botch the only success he's ever had in the Sugar Bowl.
I said I like the dude, but that doesn't always get results.
He's not changing because he really wants to -- he's changing to save his job. He should have changed the offense around when we were over the 100 mark the year before this last one.
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Not sure how WM hasn't philosophically changed the offense with the hire of Roper. It is a 180 from Pease systematically.
The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
UF has made whole sale changes on the offensive side of the ball following 2 terrible years worth of production. If that isn't self evaluation by the HC, I don't know what is.
The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
UF has made whole sale changes on the offensive side of the ball following 2 terrible years worth of production. If that isn't self evaluation by the HC, I don't know what is.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You're not providing any facts either. You're just bitching.
Blew through two coordinators?
Charlie Weis took a fricken head coaching job. How is that Muschamp's fault? He hired a good coordinator (everyone everywhere liked the hire) but then weis left him high and dry. it happens.
He did his homework, and went after another highly thought of OC, but that didn't work out for more managerial reasons. Pease didn't get along with the rest of the staff. It happens. See Billy G once Addazio was promoted.
And they DEFINITELY did not run the same offense. It was in the same family, but to call it identical is ridiculous.
Also how was John Brantley not a fricking Pro QB? Revisionist history much?
And you say he arrived to a team with a bunch of people who had championship rings? What an absolute load of shite. Almost no one on the 2011 team had anything, ANYTHING to do with those championship teams. Janoris Jenkins was the biggest defensive contributor, and he was kicked off the team right off because he was always in trouble, and Rainey and Demps had serviceable seasons in 2011, given the limitations at QB after Brantley was hurt and the limitations at the WR position.
You want to talk about a coach that wouldn't ever adapt? Look at the great Urban meyer in 2005 and 2010. He didn't have the right QB for his system, and in both seasons, UF was mired in mediocrity. If you took the 2010 team, hit them with the 2013 injuries, and had them play the 2013 schedule, UF would have been just as bad, if not worse. That team and that staff was ridiculously dysfunctional.
I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I have big problems and concerns about Muschamp, but I also won't blindly bash the guy either. And despite what you think about your "logic" (which has been mostly misremembered revisionist BS) you haven't said anything very concrete other than, oh he lost to Georgia Southern and Louisville.
Blew through two coordinators?
Charlie Weis took a fricken head coaching job. How is that Muschamp's fault? He hired a good coordinator (everyone everywhere liked the hire) but then weis left him high and dry. it happens.
He did his homework, and went after another highly thought of OC, but that didn't work out for more managerial reasons. Pease didn't get along with the rest of the staff. It happens. See Billy G once Addazio was promoted.
And they DEFINITELY did not run the same offense. It was in the same family, but to call it identical is ridiculous.
Also how was John Brantley not a fricking Pro QB? Revisionist history much?
And you say he arrived to a team with a bunch of people who had championship rings? What an absolute load of shite. Almost no one on the 2011 team had anything, ANYTHING to do with those championship teams. Janoris Jenkins was the biggest defensive contributor, and he was kicked off the team right off because he was always in trouble, and Rainey and Demps had serviceable seasons in 2011, given the limitations at QB after Brantley was hurt and the limitations at the WR position.
You want to talk about a coach that wouldn't ever adapt? Look at the great Urban meyer in 2005 and 2010. He didn't have the right QB for his system, and in both seasons, UF was mired in mediocrity. If you took the 2010 team, hit them with the 2013 injuries, and had them play the 2013 schedule, UF would have been just as bad, if not worse. That team and that staff was ridiculously dysfunctional.
I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I have big problems and concerns about Muschamp, but I also won't blindly bash the guy either. And despite what you think about your "logic" (which has been mostly misremembered revisionist BS) you haven't said anything very concrete other than, oh he lost to Georgia Southern and Louisville.
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