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Well...yeah, we switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4. What style D is USCe running this year? Sticking with the same system? I've heard conflicting reports.

We'll still be a base 4-2-5, but you'll see more 3-3-5 and 3-4-4 perhaps than in past seasons...

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Hey, there's nothing like being selective with your stats. I can do the same: Our rush D improved from 7th in the SEC to 3rd. Our total D rank stood pat at 4th...yet we gave up 50 yards fewer per game.

I wasn't that selective......I did say UGA's D "seemed" to improve, didn't I? The run defense did improve, but the total D and scoring D was essentially the same. In 2010 UGA's opponents ran the ball against them the 4th-most of all SEC teams - in 2011 they ran the ball the 2nd fewest, behind only Bama's opponents. Despite only averaging 0.50 ypc fewer, they averaged about 8 carries a game less in 2011 than in 2010. IMO it wasn't because UGA's run D was so stout - it was simply because their opponents just chose to throw the ball more...

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Wut? I actually did predict an improvement on D from 2012 to 2013...in the rushing department. And I predicted a drastic decline in the passing department. The rush D improved from 12th in the conference to 6th. The pass D dropped from 2nd to 9th.

Wut? A "consensus" isn't one poster's opinion...go check back that preseason. UGA fans here were spinning how the departure of all that pro talent was going to be a plus somehow for UGA in 2013...

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Garrison Smith was the only senior we had. I'm not even sure what "the upperclassmen like Smith are gone" statement means. Feel free to help me see the light.

...the article came out after the 3rd underclassman from last year's team was booted. I assume he was talking primarily about JHC, Shaq, and Tray given the timing of the article. Last I checked, they are not on the team. Leaders at Louisville? Sure, I'll spot you that one, assuming that's what you meant.

I was just saying that Smith seemed to imply that the upperclassmen knew what paying dues meant, while the underclassmen were entitled. I was just pointing out that a lot of that upperclassmen are now out of the program, leaving it in the hands of those underclassmen that Smith was critical of. Doesn't sound good to me...

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This is news to me.

Amarlo Herrera: Has started 30 games in his career.
Damian Swann: Has started 28 games in his career.
Jordan Jenkins: Has started 19 games in his career.
Ray Drew: Had 6 sacks last year.

But only if they were known! I'm surprised I was able to remember their names.

Well, he DID say "outside of the LB group", and 2 of the 4 you list are LBs....

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Posted by Nicolae

Member since Dec 2012

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Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:44 pm to ConwayGamecock

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I was just saying that Smith seemed to imply that the upperclassmen knew what paying dues meant, while the underclassmen were entitled. I was just pointing out that a lot of that upperclassmen are now out of the program, leaving it in the hands of those underclassmen that Smith was critical of. Doesn't sound good to me...

You just misinterpreted what Garrison was trying to say. He was taking a shot at Wiggins and Matthews and making a point of how they came in with huge egos and walked into starting spots and never got knocked down a peg by the entrenched starters that we didn't have. So they acted like punks and you see where that got the defense last year...worst in UGA history.

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Posted by MenloDawg

Member since Jan 2010

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Posted on 6/8/14 at 2:10 am to ConwayGamecock

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We'll still be a base 4-2-5, but you'll see more 3-3-5 and 3-4-4 perhaps than in past seasons...

I look forward to seeing what Gurley can do to that new 3 man front.

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I wasn't that selective......I did say UGA's D "seemed" to improve, didn't I? The run defense did improve, but the total D and scoring D was essentially the same. In 2010 UGA's opponents ran the ball against them the 4th-most of all SEC teams - in 2011 they ran the ball the 2nd fewest, behind only Bama's opponents. Despite only averaging 0.50 ypc fewer, they averaged about 8 carries a game less in 2011 than in 2010. IMO it wasn't because UGA's run D was so stout - it was simply because their opponents just chose to throw the ball more...

If you want to argue that our D didn't improve from '10 to '11, then there's no helping you. You realize the '10 D had no Jarvis Jones, no John Jenkins and Ogletree was a skinny freshman still playing safety?

'10 TOs Gained: 26 (Tied for 5th in SEC)
'11 TOs Gained: 32 (Tied for 1st)

'10 Opp. 3rd Down Conversion %: 42% (12th - good for last in 2010)
'11 Opp. 3rd Down Conversion %: 29% (3rd)

'10 Sacks: 24 (9th)
'11 Sacks: 35 (2nd)

'10 TFL: 79 (9th)
'11 TFL: 100 (2nd)

The defense was very good in 2011. The offense shat the bed over and over with TOs. Blair Walsh had an awful year that changed the complexion of games. The return D teams struggled. You might remember the USCe game as a specific example of all of this. We wouldn't have been in the SECCG if it wasn't for the D. I'm not even sure what benefit you have to gain from criticizing the '11 D.

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Wut? A "consensus" isn't one poster's opinion...go check back that preseason. UGA fans here were spinning how the departure of all that pro talent was going to be a plus somehow for UGA in 2013.

You'll just have to show me. Link something. I can't believe that a majority of UGA posters on this site actually said this. We may have expected to better than we were in the first half of 2012 given that 4 starters were suspended for multiple games to start the year. That's not very outlandish. I highly doubt any UGA posters expected any performances similar to the UF game in 2012, though.

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leaving it in the hands of those underclassmen that Smith was critical of. Doesn't sound good to me...

Yeah, so, once again: JHC, Shaq, and Tray are gone. JHC, multiple suspensions. Shaq looking for some team that would embrace his attitude. Tray, multiple instances of being a complete moron. I think Pruitt came in and trimmed the fat quite effectively.

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Well, he DID say "outside of the LB group", and 2 of the 4 you list are LBs....

He specifically mentioned the 2 LBs that are the least experienced of the four. Crack work over there by the four letter network. Aschoff is crushing it.

Then you proceeded to conveniently ignore the most pertinent part of the post: what we actually return in 2014.