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re: Clay Travis article on Michael Sam, Sterling, etc.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 5:18 pm to elposter
Posted on 5/12/14 at 5:18 pm to elposter
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ELPoster:
There is no such thing as a "right" to hold whatever opinion you want without having to face the consequences.
The only "right" you have with respect to free speech is that the government has limited ability to control it.
Nice 12th-grade Civics summary of the First Amendment.
Surprise! The First Amendment is decidedly-not the only source for the idea that a person should be entitled to speak his mind in the privacy of his own home.
Did you even read the article?
Does it not concern you in the slightest that you might conceivably lose your job for expressing an opinion not shared by your boss? Imagine that you work for Hobby Lobby. You tell your wife that you believe in abortion rights. The problem? Hobby Lobby has enacted a [hypothetical] policy that their employees cannot support abortion rights. During divorce proceedings, you wife sends the MP3 of your conversation to Hobby Lobby. Next day, you get fired.
Would your termination be constitutional? Yes. Would it be right? No.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 5:32 pm to AggieHank86
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Nice 12th-grade Civics summary of the First Amendment.
Well, it's correct, so?
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Does it not concern you in the slightest that you might conceivably lose your job for expressing an opinion not shared by your boss?
I guess hypothetically (in reality I don't have the least bit of concern about this). But having a job isn't a fricking "right." That's the point.
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Imagine that you work for Hobby Lobby.
Kill me now, but go on...
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You tell your wife that you believe in abortion rights. The problem? Hobby Lobby has enacted a [hypothetical] policy that their employees cannot support abortion rights. During divorce proceedings, you wife sends the MP3 of your conversation to Hobby Lobby. Next day, you get fired.
Would your termination be constitutional? Yes. Would it be right? No.
Ah, the old slippery slope argument. That would be kind of a shitty thing for Hobby Lobby to do. However, as you correctly point out, without more facts I would presume that Hobby Lobby could fire me for this, particularly if I'm an at will employee. Just like I could quit Hobby Lobby whenever I want if I irrationally don't agree with some stupid belief they have. Employment is a arm's length transaction where both parties are free to end it for any reason or no reason at all (as long as it is not an illegal reason - e.g., you are black, you are a woman, you are disabled, etc.). Capitalism has a way of working that kind of stuff out. Hobby Lobby does that, then I bet they pay a price for it in the market.
Any way, back to the point. Speak your mind and make a fool of yourself all day every day, that is certainly your "right." But be prepared to pay the consequences if the market so dicates.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 5:35 pm
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