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re: What do people get out of going to church on Easter once a year?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:19 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:19 pm to FooManChoo
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The argument that God is either powerless or evil is predicated on the belief that humans don't deserve Hell and that God enjoys torturing innocent people. Neither of those are true.
Given that your entire post hinges on this premise, I'll just address this.
Prove this. Give me some sort of evidence. I refuse to merely grant you the premise that we deserve hell and are inherently evil creatures as a species. This is a silly notion that is only accepted as a necessary part of christianity. It lacks any real world evidence, and more importantly it lacks any rational philosophical support.
And regardless of what you wish to believe about omniscience and its limitations, it doesnt change the reality of the implications of that term.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:What sort of "proof" are you looking for? I'm basing my argument off of the Biblical view of God and man and our relationship to one another. If you'd like me to give you scripture references to support my view, I can.
Given that your entire post hinges on this premise, I'll just address this.
Prove this. Give me some sort of evidence. I refuse to merely grant you the premise that we deserve hell and are inherently evil creatures as a species. This is a silly notion that is only accepted as a necessary part of christianity. It lacks any real world evidence, and more importantly it lacks any rational philosophical support.
And regardless of what you wish to believe about omniscience and its limitations, it doesnt change the reality of the implications of that term.
I'm not sure what "real world evidence" you are talking about. Everyone sins. Everyone is selfish to some degree. Everyone acts in ways that are contrary to the character of God (as revealed in the Bible). So therefore, everyone is a proof case on the sinfulness of mankind as proclaimed in the Bible. Just because not everyone is as bad as they could be doesn't prove they are not bad (according to God's standard).
I'm also not quite what "rational philosophical support" you are referring to. The Biblical worldview is a philosophy in itself. Are you wanting me to reference Plato to support my view?
And you're right that my belief about omniscience and its limitations doesn't change the reality of the implications of it. I have been expressing my view on the reality of it and its implications during this dialogue.
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