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re: Will A&M and Mizzou get the treatment that Arky and USCe got
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:24 pm to SunHog
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:24 pm to SunHog
Your adding all these meaningless caveats.
"But but but Little Rock!"...but no one gives a shite. The University of Arkansas is in Fayetteville not Little Rock. Don't throw out the "four game a year" line either like you play half your conference games there. Since 1992 you've played 67% of your conference home games in Fayetteville and 76% of your home games since 2000. Even if you played every game in Little Rock, Columbia would still be closer.
The only thing that makes South Carolina more Southern is history, about 190 extra years of it. South Carolina is at the heart of Southern history and development, Arkansas is a border state on the periphery of that development. It's more than just race and the civil war but I will grant you that the definition of what "southern" is and the debate around it will vary from person to person.
"But but but Little Rock!"...but no one gives a shite. The University of Arkansas is in Fayetteville not Little Rock. Don't throw out the "four game a year" line either like you play half your conference games there. Since 1992 you've played 67% of your conference home games in Fayetteville and 76% of your home games since 2000. Even if you played every game in Little Rock, Columbia would still be closer.
The only thing that makes South Carolina more Southern is history, about 190 extra years of it. South Carolina is at the heart of Southern history and development, Arkansas is a border state on the periphery of that development. It's more than just race and the civil war but I will grant you that the definition of what "southern" is and the debate around it will vary from person to person.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:18 pm to KSGamecock
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Your adding all these meaningless caveats.
Meaningless to you yet obvious to the heads at play during that time.
Little Rock to:
Ole Miss: 185
MSU: 280
Vandy: 349 * (East not included)
LSU: 341
Alabama: 366
Auburn: 482
1654
Columbia to:
UGA: 165
Tenn: 263
UF: 357
UK: 443
Vandy: 441
1669
Little Rock is closer to division schools than USC and we played 4 games a year there so it's a wash in distance. Continue to ignore it if you wish.
Do you see why Little Rock mattered? It's the largest Arkansas fan base hub, played 4 games a year there and it's exactly why Arkansas and South Carolina have almost the same percentage of playing SEC foes before joining the conference. You don't know jack about playing games in Little Rock and since 2001 (Stadium Expansion in Fayetteville) took games away from Little Rock. A whole lot of people wanted to expand our Stadium in Little Rock because of proximity and access to the whole state. It didn't happen.
At the end of the day the move was about prestige and power. USC had zero but Arkansas, Texas and Texas A&M had a whole lot. It didn't go down the way it should've but with USC and Arkansas, they helped change the whole SEC.
LSU played as many SWC teams as Arkansas played SEC teams therefore the SEC Conference system was a joke before we joined. LSU has almost no history with Auburn, Kentucky or Georgia.
There is nothing today South Carolina has Arkansas doesn't besides a greater minority population in regards to history. America is now domestically nationalized and the Old South doesn't exist anymore.
For someone who wants to talk about history, you should at least know Arkansas wasn't a border state.
If we are sticking to history, than the state of Arkansas damn sure gave a lot to the South, in contribution to the CSA, much more than Louisiana, Florida or Tennessee and the same as Georgia for example.
We didn't supply thousands of troops to fight for the North like Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee did.
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If you know anything about Fayetteville, Arkansas then you know the largest and bloodiest battle west of the Mississippi river was fought 15 minutes outside of Fayetteville and Dickson street (Bar scene today) was used as a hospital. Fayetteville was burned to the ground during three different occupations of the South and North.
Here is the house right off Dickson Street in Fayetteville today still with Cannon Ball marks.
This is exactly why this board is laughable when talking about what southern is or isn't?
The Union had control of New Orleans by 1862 and Arkansas was still battling the North into Missouri until a year later. People sound so stupid when they don't have time to put their iPhone down and actually read history.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 3:55 pm
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