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Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:53 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 2/25/14 at 5:53 pm to The Spleen
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Yep. I'm not that militant about it, and don't agree with the way the pro-life crowd goes about challenging it, but I am against it.
We've entered a strange place Spleen. Me the Christian/Theist not giving a frick one way or the other about abortion, and you the Agnostic/Atheist being against it.
I'm just curious what the non-pro-life crowd's reason would be for being against it. Not trying to flame, I'm genuinely curious.
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:19 pm to Vols&Shaft83
First, I'm not sure I'm Atheist nor Agnostic. I reject the Christian, Biblical version of God, but I do believe there is some form of a higher power. Just not sure in what form.
When I say I'm not pro-life, it's more about not wanting to be lumped in with the ardent pro-lifers. The ones that demonstrate at abortion clinics and harass the workers and patients there. I ain't about that. I think a surgical procedure to remove a potential life from a woman's body as morally wrong. I don't necessarily consider it murder, but to me it's just wrong, and not something I would ever consider if I were party to an unwanted pregnancy. But again, it's not an issue I'm all that passionate about. If that's the option a woman wants to take, I don't feel it's my right to tell her she's wrong for doing it as it is legal in this country.
When I say I'm not pro-life, it's more about not wanting to be lumped in with the ardent pro-lifers. The ones that demonstrate at abortion clinics and harass the workers and patients there. I ain't about that. I think a surgical procedure to remove a potential life from a woman's body as morally wrong. I don't necessarily consider it murder, but to me it's just wrong, and not something I would ever consider if I were party to an unwanted pregnancy. But again, it's not an issue I'm all that passionate about. If that's the option a woman wants to take, I don't feel it's my right to tell her she's wrong for doing it as it is legal in this country.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I'm just curious what the non-pro-life crowd's reason would be for being against it. Not trying to flame, I'm genuinely curious.
The reason is that I'm pro-life is that I view mothers killing their children because they don't want them is wrong.
Now, the response is usually to point out that God killed and ordered others to kill men, women, children, infants, livestock...everything. This seems to be a conundrum, Christians being against mothers killing their babies by the millions (i'm sure it's billions by now) but accepting the stories of killing in the bible.
The issue is not understanding why the order was given by God, why the action occurred. The biblical fact is that there were peoples in the bible who were of the evil one, the deceiver. The teaching isn't for a forum such as this, especially if you're not a believer. If you don't believe in the God of the bible then the stories can't be explained to the unbeliever's satisfaction.
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