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re: Volkswagen employees vote down UAW unionization bid in Chattanooga

Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9712 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:06 pm to
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Somewhat agree, and disagree. It's no coincidence that the middle class has been shrinking since Reagan began his assault on unions in the early 80's. Now, I do admit the unions helped create an environment where that assault could be justified. I still think there's a need for them, but I agree maybe not in the form they had become 30 years ago.


Everybody equates "union" with UAW. I like the concept, not so much the execution.

Without a union, the employer has all the power. And look at how that has worked out with the demise of the middle class that follows the declined of union participation.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262138 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:43 pm to
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Without a union, the employer has all the power. And look at how that has worked out with the demise of the middle class that follows the declined of union participation.


Union propaganda.

The middle class is alive and well, just redefined. Unions are now for people who lack bargaining power due to a lack of skill and individual bargaining power.

They still serve a purpose in some industry, like construction trades but have no business in the public sector. Unions are bringing about their own demise and are basically a big business. They spend more money lobbying than most industry.

European and Asian unions dont have an adversarial relationship with management like American unions. Maybe that's why they are still relevant.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 11:46 pm
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