re: Vol fans - what if Saban/Kiffin pulled a Bowden/Scott?

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You're probably right Prof ... he was only there for a year and he never came across as, or tried to convince your fanbase, that he was a goody two shoes like Fat Bradstard did us here at SCAR .... and then attempt to completely destroy the program.

Nor is Saban the scumbag type like the Bowden family is well known to be.

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A lot of us never warmed up to him. He came across as cocky, arrogant, and sleazy out of the gate. Of course, some fans dug the attitude (they were tired of the always polite, always steady, stoic on the sidelines Fulmer) but a lot of us didn't. From the moment Kiffin opened his mouth I knew he'd have problems in Knoxville -- we still have enough of the old mountain 'never brag on yourself and always be polite' attitude entrenched in us culturally to where it was shocking to see a coach act like he did and to make matters worse he acted like that when he had nothing to back it up. You'll notice how Spurrier always throws out his barbs with humor, shows a sense of self-deprecating humor and doesn't brag on himself? That's the acceptable way to be cocky here.

I had no idea how bad Kiffin would be but I do remember thinking 'this guy's trouble and even if he wins he's gonna have a hard time fitting in here.'

And yeah Kiffin never tried to sell us on the idea that he was somehow 'good guy.' Nor was ever the kinda guy you could fall in love with -- he was pure unlikable a-hole but you hoped he could do something on the field.