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re: How is Connor Shaw the 16th ranked QB?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:22 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:22 am to TigerintheNO
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One of the most underated SEC players of all-time
-Led his team 3 bowl wins. (they hav 7 all-time)
-Never lost a game at home 17-0, in which he started
-He is 22 games above .500 as a starting QB.
-Had over 5,700 yards passing.
-Not only is he the most accurate passer in school history 65.1%, with just one interception his senior year, he is also the school's leading rusher as a Qb with over 1,500 yard rushing.
I agree Shaw is an underrated guy. Though I feel ultimately what is keeping USC from getting over the hump ie championships is Spurrier as weird as it sounds. He has done great with getting USC competitive and they are probably the 2nd best SEC east team of the past decade especially if he coaches 2 more years.
But as iconic as his "Fun n Gun" was it was a very simple offense. And despite trying at times to recapture that magic he just hasn't. His fun n gun dominated 90s SEC football because everybody was running Bear defenses. Now the Nick Saban's of the conference that regularly play Nickel/Dime and even Quarters in the secondary (Quarters as in 7 DB's).
And because of that Spurrior has never evolved his offense to the "next step". Granted he has installed some Zone Read in the offense and he runs the ball a lot better than he used to.
It sounds weird to say about someone considered to be one of the SEC's all time great offensive coaches but Spurrier has no offensive identity currently. Its like they do so much and the offense changes to much depending on one or two guys. Its like he has no system anymore. Nothing to build to, to recruit to etc.
Saban is not an offensive guy, but you know as long as he is Bama's coach we will run the Earhardt Perkins system that the whole Parcells/Belichick/Saban coaching tree uses. Our offense changes subtlety at times (addition of Wildcat/Pistol etc) but the same base offense we were running in 2007 is the same one we are running now, and its the same one Saban ran at Michigan State, the Dolphins and LSU.
Literally every time you watch South Carolina under Spurrier the offense looks different. Its a completely difference offense now than it was under Thompson, or Garcia, or how it looked in 2005 or even when they beat us in 2010.
I think that is a good reason USC is having problems breaking through to the top. I mean they have been consistently good since he has been there, even great compared to Sakerlina prior to his arrival. But if you take the SEC as a whole from 2005-2010 the conference has dominated college football but it seems of the teams that haven't been hopeless they are the ones not sharing the spotlight with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, even Georgia.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:07 am to Libertyabides71
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Though I feel ultimately what is keeping USC from getting over the hump ie championships is Spurrier as weird as it sounds.
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It sounds weird to say about someone considered to be one of the SEC's all time great offensive coaches but Spurrier has no offensive identity currently. Its like they do so much and the offense changes to much depending on one or two guys. Its like he has no system anymore. Nothing to build to, to recruit to etc.
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Literally every time you watch South Carolina under Spurrier the offense looks different. Its a completely difference offense now than it was under Thompson, or Garcia, or how it looked in 2005 or even when they beat us in 2010
Is this serious? Spurrier is the reason, are you serious or trolling? Just because we haven't won it all does not dispute the fact that the program is in its best shape ever and doing things it has never come close to doing.
As far as you identity comment... He runs a zone read and power running game and takes his shots down field pretty consistent. Spurrier has always called plays based on what the defense is giving him. Not just on his system. He calls the right play for what the D is giving him. This post is crazy.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:49 am to Libertyabides71
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Literally every time you watch South Carolina under Spurrier the offense looks different. Its a completely difference offense now than it was under Thompson, or Garcia, or how it looked in 2005 or even when they beat us in 2010.
I think that is a good reason USC is having problems breaking through to the top. I mean they have been consistently good since he has been there, even great compared to Sakerlina prior to his arrival. But if you take the SEC as a whole from 2005-2010 the conference has dominated college football but it seems of the teams that haven't been hopeless they are the ones not sharing the spotlight with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, even Georgia.
Not a troll, but how much have you watched USC the last few years? They're pretty much a consistent zone-read, shotgun offense. Spurrier tries to get the ground game going, and then he opens up the downfield targets, sometimes off of rollouts/bootlegs. We don't have an Alshon anymore, but our wideouts are sure-handed, speedy, and great route-runners. Shaq Roland had a little bit of a coming out party yesterday.
As far as being relevant, no, USC hasn't made it to Atlanta like we ought to. Everyone in the fanbase knows it, and is frustrated by it. USC has beaten the East rep the last three years, but keeps tripping over their dicks against lesser opponents (Auburn 2011, UF 2012, UGA/UTK 2013).
You could argue that what Spurrier is doing at USC is his best coaching work, as he has had to adapt the most in order to make the program go. When he first showed up, he tried the Fun 'n Gun with mediocre results. Since '10, when he hired our offensive line coach and installed the zone-read, the team has been light-years better.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:08 am to Libertyabides71
with respect, he's run the same base package of concepts for the last 2 decades: isolation, zone, lead draw, power, stretch, curl-flat, mills, smash. He runs more than this obviously but this basic core has not changed. It is one of the reasons he's the best play caller in college football. He understands his offense inside and out. He runs a handful of concepts out of multiple formations.
A lead draw from the I vs a lead draw from 11 personnel is the same play for the offese but a completely different look for a defense.
A lead draw from the I vs a lead draw from 11 personnel is the same play for the offese but a completely different look for a defense.
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