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Let's Compare Hugh's O vs Gus's O
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:35 am
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:35 am
So after watching us and Auburn all year, I want to have a discussion about these two and their offenses. Obviously they both like to hurry up and run as many plays as possible while spreading out the defense. Is that where the similarities end?
I know Auburn bases it's system around a power running game and they are damn good at it. I heard during the game today that Missouri and Pinkle seem to think that on Aub's zone- read plays that they call keep or give in the huddle rather than reading it (Mizzou could tell due to lack of fumbles). Regardless Auburn tries to run it strait at you as many times as possible through the game, which wears you down, opens up the offense and destroys you in the 4th when you are gassed. (Pretty much the Bama philosophy but from a spread look)
Freeze on the other hand likes to run the ball but uses more of the outside sweep type of run game. He does use some inside stuff but not nearly as much. Freeze also uses a quick passing attack as well to keep the defense off balanced and to keep the corners worried about the WR instead of being in run support.
I guess my question is do you think Freeze wants to run it up the gut as much as Mahlzahn but doesn't have the O lineman yet or do you think they have different philosophies in general. I'm a firm believer that you have to be yourself, especially in play calling because you have have to get into a rhythm, but after year 2 of Freeze is this what his offense is? Or do you think he still isn't to where he wants to be personnel wise and it will change the more talent we have? Or is Freeze one of those coaches who see's where his talent is and plays off of that?
I personally would like to see us run more PA on first down and try to go down the field, but I understand you cant do unless you draw the DB's into thinking heavy run support. In a perfect world we would spend about 10 seconds getting to the line after the play, let the QB get to the line, make the defense show and signal the play based on how many guys are in the box (USUALLY 2 high safeties leaves 6 in the box which you should be able to run easily with a hat on a hat, with 1 high safety and 7 in the box, you use the zone read to account for the extra man, and with 0 high safeties and 8 in the box you should be able to throw and win 1 on 1 with your WR). But it's not always that easy.
I know TL:DR and probably doesn't even make sense, but it's 2:30 on a Sat night and I'm procrastinating studying for the Praxis. Give me a break.
I know Auburn bases it's system around a power running game and they are damn good at it. I heard during the game today that Missouri and Pinkle seem to think that on Aub's zone- read plays that they call keep or give in the huddle rather than reading it (Mizzou could tell due to lack of fumbles). Regardless Auburn tries to run it strait at you as many times as possible through the game, which wears you down, opens up the offense and destroys you in the 4th when you are gassed. (Pretty much the Bama philosophy but from a spread look)
Freeze on the other hand likes to run the ball but uses more of the outside sweep type of run game. He does use some inside stuff but not nearly as much. Freeze also uses a quick passing attack as well to keep the defense off balanced and to keep the corners worried about the WR instead of being in run support.
I guess my question is do you think Freeze wants to run it up the gut as much as Mahlzahn but doesn't have the O lineman yet or do you think they have different philosophies in general. I'm a firm believer that you have to be yourself, especially in play calling because you have have to get into a rhythm, but after year 2 of Freeze is this what his offense is? Or do you think he still isn't to where he wants to be personnel wise and it will change the more talent we have? Or is Freeze one of those coaches who see's where his talent is and plays off of that?
I personally would like to see us run more PA on first down and try to go down the field, but I understand you cant do unless you draw the DB's into thinking heavy run support. In a perfect world we would spend about 10 seconds getting to the line after the play, let the QB get to the line, make the defense show and signal the play based on how many guys are in the box (USUALLY 2 high safeties leaves 6 in the box which you should be able to run easily with a hat on a hat, with 1 high safety and 7 in the box, you use the zone read to account for the extra man, and with 0 high safeties and 8 in the box you should be able to throw and win 1 on 1 with your WR). But it's not always that easy.
I know TL:DR and probably doesn't even make sense, but it's 2:30 on a Sat night and I'm procrastinating studying for the Praxis. Give me a break.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 3:05 am to HottyToddy7
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This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 3:11 am
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:09 am to HottyToddy7
Here's what Auburn has that we don't: a good offensive line and Tre Mason.
We can talk about what plays we want to run all day, but the painful fact is that our OL is one of the worst in the SEC.
We can talk about what plays we want to run all day, but the painful fact is that our OL is one of the worst in the SEC.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 7:34 pm to HottyToddy7
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Freeze on the other hand likes to run the ball but uses more of the outside sweep type of run game.
They both do this. Its an essential part of the read option. AU does it quite a bit and with a lot more success because they can run the dive and counter trey that freeze the defensive backfield. We pass a lot more because Bo is not a true read option qb, and our strength is the wr's.
Our oline, especially when missing starters, is no where near theirs right now.
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