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re: Is America better off since the Tea Party formed?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:46 am to Alahunter
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:46 am to Alahunter
The debt to GDP ratio has been going down since the post-2008 spike caused by the recession. Further, the growth of federal spending has slowed since Obama took office. It exploded under Bush, especially in his last 2 years in office.
To say the debt is simply because of all the "entitlement" programs is comically short sighted. It's caused by a lot of factors, including paying for 2 wars and the Bush tax cuts, which yes Obama extended. It's a bipartisan problem, if you even want to call it a problem, but the Tea Party is too busy demonizing the less fortunate on welfare to see the forest for the trees.
To say the debt is simply because of all the "entitlement" programs is comically short sighted. It's caused by a lot of factors, including paying for 2 wars and the Bush tax cuts, which yes Obama extended. It's a bipartisan problem, if you even want to call it a problem, but the Tea Party is too busy demonizing the less fortunate on welfare to see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:52 am to The Spleen
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The debt to GDP ratio has been going down since the post-2008 spike caused by the recession. Further, the growth of federal spending has slowed since Obama took office. It exploded under Bush, especially in his last 2 years in office
This is correct. I had an Econ professor debunk the entire "family budget" thing that was spreading like the plague through facebook and twitter.
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It's caused by a lot of factors, including paying for 2 wars and the Bush tax cuts
Bush's last 2 years in office are to blame for much of the issues we face today. It's unfortunate, and I feel idiotic for voting for him...twice.
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but the Tea Party is too busy demonizing the less fortunate on welfare to see the forest for the trees.
Correct. While there are MANY who abuse the system, there are also many who genuinely need it. But it is now being portrayed as the only people who use welfare, foodstamps, etc.. are African Americans who sit at home all day popping out babies and playing on their Obamaphone. This is not the case in all cases and it's a shame that the Tea Party has managed to shift the conservative mindset to this line of thinking.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:54 am to The Spleen
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demonizing the less fortunate
I may disagree with you on who falls in the category of less fortunate, but I think most people feel a moral obligation to help those that are actually in need. I just don't feel that it is the responsibility of the government.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:55 am to The Spleen
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The debt to GDP ratio has been going down since the post-2008 spike caused by the recession. Further, the growth of federal spending has slowed since Obama took office. It exploded under Bush, especially in his last 2 years in office.
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FWIW, I don't get folks blaming Bush for things. His policies were doubled down on by Obama, who you love. Bush, I think meant well, but I disagreed with a lot of his policies. He took many progressive positions and Gov't did expand under him, much of it bad. Like the Patriot Act.
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To say the debt is simply because of all the "entitlement" programs is comically short sighted. It's caused by a lot of factors, including paying for 2 wars and the Bush tax cuts, which yes Obama extended. It's a bipartisan problem, if you even want to call it a problem, but the Tea Party is too busy demonizing the less fortunate on welfare to see the forest for the trees.
It's more than doubled. Under Obama. While he had complete control of the House and the Senate.
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To say the debt is simply because of all the "entitlement" programs is comically short sighted.
I didn't say all debt, but it's by far the largest portion of it. What I said is that the decay of this country is because of so many entitlement programs and generations of people living on them as a lifestyle, instead of temporary help. Take the EBT card failure last week and the massive theft because of it. Hell, we advertise in Mexico, telling them how to come up here to sign up for free programs.
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