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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:03 pm to undecided
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:03 pm to undecided
Yes, they do. There are four states in the SEC that can realistically support multiple elite schools at once: Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Texas. Of them, only one actually has multiple SEC schools, and for the past 15 years, they've never been elite at the same time for more than one-year flashes in the pan (2005, 2010, for instance). Florida and Texas support multiple strong BCS programs, but they're also the outliers in the SEC by a huge margin, boasting enormous population and financial advantages over most of the other schools.
And if you look at the remaining states -- Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina -- you'll see that Mississippi and Tennessee are the only two that have multiple SEC schools in them. Neither state has had both schools be competitive at the same time. Branching out a little further, those two, South Carolina, and Kentucky have multiple BCS programs, but only one of the four states that do (SC) has had any amount of sustained success for those multiple BCS schools at once, and that success is mostly supported by out-of-state recruiting... incidentally, in another of the SEC's larger states (Georgia), and another state with a big population, good growth, and financial resources (North Carolina).
Basically, Mississippi is one of four states in the SEC (South Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky being the others) that has to support multiple BCS teams without the large population and financial base needed to do so. When these states have produced contenders (basically only Tennessee and, more recently, South Carolina), it's been due to strong out-of-state recruiting to supplement in-state recruiting. So yes, they more or less "cancel each other out," and it'll take one of the schools going out-of-state and poaching recruits for them both to be successful, something that neither of them is really incentivized to do (why not just dominate Mississippi as the core, pick up a few good recruits out-of-state, and keep the rival down?).
tl;dr: yes they do
And if you look at the remaining states -- Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina -- you'll see that Mississippi and Tennessee are the only two that have multiple SEC schools in them. Neither state has had both schools be competitive at the same time. Branching out a little further, those two, South Carolina, and Kentucky have multiple BCS programs, but only one of the four states that do (SC) has had any amount of sustained success for those multiple BCS schools at once, and that success is mostly supported by out-of-state recruiting... incidentally, in another of the SEC's larger states (Georgia), and another state with a big population, good growth, and financial resources (North Carolina).
Basically, Mississippi is one of four states in the SEC (South Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky being the others) that has to support multiple BCS teams without the large population and financial base needed to do so. When these states have produced contenders (basically only Tennessee and, more recently, South Carolina), it's been due to strong out-of-state recruiting to supplement in-state recruiting. So yes, they more or less "cancel each other out," and it'll take one of the schools going out-of-state and poaching recruits for them both to be successful, something that neither of them is really incentivized to do (why not just dominate Mississippi as the core, pick up a few good recruits out-of-state, and keep the rival down?).
tl;dr: yes they do
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:05 pm
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:10 pm to lsutothetop
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lsutothetop
Really good post
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There are four states in the SEC that can realistically support multiple elite schools at once: Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Texas. Of them, only one actually has multiple SEC schools, and for the past 15 years, they've never been elite at the same time for more than one-year flashes in the pan (2005, 2010, for instance).
Auburn and Alabama have rarely had successful coaches at the same time i.e Dye/Perkins, Tubberville/Mike 3. Im excited to see how Malzahn performs in the shadow of Saban as this may be our chance to put this theory to the test.
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Basically, Mississippi is one of four states in the SEC (South Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky being the others) that has to support multiple BCS teams without the large population and financial base needed to do so. When these states have produced contenders (basically only Tennessee and, more recently, South Carolina), it's been due to strong out-of-state recruiting to supplement in-state recruiting. So yes, they more or less "cancel each other out," and it'll take one of the schools going out-of-state and poaching recruits for them both to be successful, something that neither of them is really incentivized to do (why not just dominate Mississippi as the core, pick up a few good recruits out-of-state, and keep the rival down?).
So the question becomes, how badly do the Mississippi schools want to compete on a national level
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