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re: Clay Honeycutt is Answering Your Questions

Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:14 pm to
That was a very lengthy explanation that doesn't refute my point at all. There were other mistakes on that play (as I mentioned) but Honeycutt's was the most fundamental and the one that resulted in the play being a TD instead of a modest gain. The fact that that particular TD happened to give Bama the lead which they never relinquished didn't help.

I don't have time to break down every play from Bama and Sam, perhaps that was his only play he was directly responsible for a TD as most of Bama's scores were from sustained drives. I do remember a play against Sam where he bit badly on a Zone Read and allowed his man to be wide open with no one within 15 yards of him and do a pitch and catch score. I recall another play (can't remember if it was Rice or Sam) where he had a straight up position on an RB and got juked (similar to the Bell TD) for a long score.

I don't hate the kid. I don't even think he is our worst defensive player from the Sam and Bama games (that would be Baggs imo). I just think he has a lot of flaws and the team has paid for them. Unfortunately as a Safety your flaws are more expensive.

More than that though, I just don't think he needs to go out asking for questions on the internet and taking cheap shots at fans who may have criticized his play. Or if he does I don't have much sympathy for him.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80900 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:16 pm to
Oh no...Aggressor vs. tmc94.

3 years later, both arguments have concluded?
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:34 pm to
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and the one that resulted in the play being a TD instead of a modest gain

Of course that's true. But if Jenkins doesn't tip the blitz, they don't audible into the play and it never happened. If Jacobs does his job, Bell is funneled back inside and the play goes for virtually nothing. Each was a point of failure. I'm honestly not sure how you judge Honeycutt's error as more egregious than the others. It's irrational

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I don't have time to break down every play from Bama and Sam, perhaps that was his only play he was directly responsible for a TD

Do you honestly think Mark Snyder sat in the film room and said, "Honeycutt was directly responsible for that TD?" Because I can assure you he did not. He broke it down just like I did. He's got many things to fix. Defense is about team. When one guy screws up you hope the next guy cleans it up. When you have multiple points of failure, you give up explosive plays. That's what happened here.
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I don't hate the kid.

No matter how many times you say it isn't that you hate him, it certainly comes across that way because your pov seems entirely irrational which leads to this...
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More than that though, I just don't think he needs to go out asking for questions on the internet and taking cheap shots at fans who may have criticized his play.

You keep coming back to this. He's a college kid. He's having fun. You take that as a cheapshot while everyone else in this thread laughed at it. Hell 99% of the questions were about girls and his hair. He wasn't arguing with people on Texags. He was fielding random inane questions on ask.fm (and it seems more than anything he was trolling for girls)

Life will make more sense when you quit taking everything a college kid says or does so seriously. I think we're about the same age but you really come across like a stiff old guy, not a young cool cat like myself. They still say that, right?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58164 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:33 pm to
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There were other mistakes on that play (as I mentioned) but Honeycutt's was the most fundamental and the one that resulted in the play being a TD instead of a modest gain


wut?

the biggest mistake once the blitz was tipped was Jacobs going immediately inside when he was supposed to have outside contain.

As soon as he went inside it was game over on that play. 95% of safeties in college football would have been screwed. Even had Honeycutt been in better position it would have been an extremely tough tackle to make.
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