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re: JFF on the Cover of Time-"It's time to pay college athletes"
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:02 pm to skrayper
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:02 pm to skrayper
You are sadly mistaken if you think Texas has such an overwhelming money advantage over A&M that we can't compete with them. Texas has 450k living alumni, A&M has about 380k. The average A&M alumni makes more than the average Texas alumni and we are now larger than they are and producing more graduates per year. A&M also has more than enough BMA's to buy whatever is needed if that is the issue, maybe you missed how we are dropping $450 mill on rebuilding Kyle and it is already sold out and the money is accounted for to pay for it.
I think the entire concept of "stopping cheating" and keeping players "clean" is just semantics anyway. There are many, many ways to get around NCAA regs to pay players legally or illegally. You can't really stop a $100 or $1000 handshake. You can't really stop Uncle Billy from getting a lot better job than he should. You can't really stop a school from going above and beyond to make sure a kid gets Pell Grants and other additional monies that are simply checks that pass through to them because their college is already fully paid for. So let's just stop pretending like this is all some fair and noble game of amateur athletes, it just isn't. Right now the rewards just go to the team that skirts the rules the best (which btw isn't going to change with any new rules).
One thing that allowing kids to make money off their likeness in school would do is probably keep some kids in school longer. If a kid can make some extra bank off his image he may well stick around an extra year or finish off his degree rather than risk the move to the pro ranks by leaving early. At least that's a possibility. To take Johnny out of this, think of a "One and done" Bball player at UK. He might decide to stick around if he knows he can make and extra $20k on his likeness while staying in school.
I think the entire concept of "stopping cheating" and keeping players "clean" is just semantics anyway. There are many, many ways to get around NCAA regs to pay players legally or illegally. You can't really stop a $100 or $1000 handshake. You can't really stop Uncle Billy from getting a lot better job than he should. You can't really stop a school from going above and beyond to make sure a kid gets Pell Grants and other additional monies that are simply checks that pass through to them because their college is already fully paid for. So let's just stop pretending like this is all some fair and noble game of amateur athletes, it just isn't. Right now the rewards just go to the team that skirts the rules the best (which btw isn't going to change with any new rules).
One thing that allowing kids to make money off their likeness in school would do is probably keep some kids in school longer. If a kid can make some extra bank off his image he may well stick around an extra year or finish off his degree rather than risk the move to the pro ranks by leaving early. At least that's a possibility. To take Johnny out of this, think of a "One and done" Bball player at UK. He might decide to stick around if he knows he can make and extra $20k on his likeness while staying in school.
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:28 pm to aggressor
You are sadly mistaken if you think Texas has such
Alumni is not the same as fanbase. Texas has a population of over 26 million; your alumni totals between both schools is, what, 3% of that? Do you believe that only 3% of the state's population cheer for Texas or Texas A&M?
Facebook data seems to imply that Texas still retains a stranglehold on the state in regards to overall fanbase.
And please note, I'm not referring to cheating. I'm referring to building in a formula where a player gets money directly related to merchandising. The largest FANBASES (not Alumni groups) will dictate where all but the most loyal player plays. Even the richest almuni will falter if their principle rival can open up an extra 1 million wallets.
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an overwhelming money advantage over A&M that we can't compete with them. Texas has 450k living alumni, A&M has about 380k. The average A&M alumni makes more than the average Texas alumni and we are now larger than they are and producing more graduates per year. A&M also has more than enough BMA's to buy whatever is needed if that is the issue, maybe you missed how we are dropping $450 mill on rebuilding Kyle and it is already sold out and the money is accounted for to pay for it.
Alumni is not the same as fanbase. Texas has a population of over 26 million; your alumni totals between both schools is, what, 3% of that? Do you believe that only 3% of the state's population cheer for Texas or Texas A&M?
Facebook data seems to imply that Texas still retains a stranglehold on the state in regards to overall fanbase.
And please note, I'm not referring to cheating. I'm referring to building in a formula where a player gets money directly related to merchandising. The largest FANBASES (not Alumni groups) will dictate where all but the most loyal player plays. Even the richest almuni will falter if their principle rival can open up an extra 1 million wallets.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 4:07 pm to aggressor
Ahh, I see the Kool-Aid is still flowing from College Station, and the Jim Joneses are imbibing.
Boy, you aggies grabbed hold of that non-scientific, self-reporting website Payscale.com and have milked it for every drop. That aggie honor code ain't worth shite any longer, so that is very dubious.
The number I've seen for A&M is 350K, which puts you just ahead of the University of North Texas at 326K. So?
The College Station campus enrollment is not larger than The University of Texas at Austin's campus enrollment. Let's see if you can wrap your aggie head around that one.
Insert the "Geez, not this shite again" gif.
$320 million of the $450 million will be financed by bonds
Not when you break this down to annual contributions vs. capital contributions.
Major Gift Programs = support facilities construction for Texas A&M Athletics. Not a valid comparison when you include capital gifts and annual gifts in one pot, when The University of Texas is not currently undergoing a facilities overhaul.
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The average A&M alumni makes more than the average Texas alumni
Boy, you aggies grabbed hold of that non-scientific, self-reporting website Payscale.com and have milked it for every drop. That aggie honor code ain't worth shite any longer, so that is very dubious. quote:
Texas has 450k living alumni, A&M has about 380k.
The number I've seen for A&M is 350K, which puts you just ahead of the University of North Texas at 326K. So?
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we are now larger than they are and producing more graduates per year.
The College Station campus enrollment is not larger than The University of Texas at Austin's campus enrollment. Let's see if you can wrap your aggie head around that one.
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maybe you missed how we are dropping $450 mill on rebuilding Kyle and it is already sold out and the money is accounted for to pay for it
Insert the "Geez, not this shite again" gif.
$320 million of the $450 million will be financed by bonds
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TAMU donors also gave $13 million more than their longhorn counterparts last year.
Not when you break this down to annual contributions vs. capital contributions.
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Annual Giving Programs exceed $23 million in donations while Major Gift Programs have averaged gifts of $15 million per year for the past three years
Major Gift Programs = support facilities construction for Texas A&M Athletics. Not a valid comparison when you include capital gifts and annual gifts in one pot, when The University of Texas is not currently undergoing a facilities overhaul.
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