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re: A&M - Bama 2012 and JFF vs. the Zone Defense

Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:06 pm to
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The point of this thread was to ask A&M fans if they think JFF can beat the zone and Bama fans if they'll stick to Man even though JFF torched you last year.

It's really just not a very good premise honestly. The foundation of it assumes the A&M offense was the same game one to game 13. It simply wasn't. Manziel was a freshman who people forget really had his struggles early on in the season. We were forced to punt the first 3 series vs the vaunted SMU defense for instance. His mechanics early on were also a cluster and he was incredibly inconsistent throwing the ball because of it.

Yet you seem determined to get a very simplistic answer to a question that has hundreds of variables. We had a new offense last year. It took everyone a while to adjust. The first few games people wanted to fire our OL coach because our OL was so bad. Seriously. You just can't make these straight line comparisons.

Also, the Air Raid is typically very hard to blitz. The best schemes against it have always been built around getting pressure without blitzing. LSU confused Manziel no doubt. But it doesn't mean that same scheme would have worked 4 weeks later after he'd already seen it and sat in the film room looking at it. Just as I doubt McCarron is confused this year by the robber defense we employed. You can't study these games in a vacuum.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 1:22 pm to
I'll always remember being on Texags during the first half of the SMU game and there were several threads dedicated to how we needed to bench Manziel and get Showers in there. A few posters really got taken to the woodshed later off of that.

The other factors were important as well. For instance we completely changed our OL blocking scheme and it took a while to get it together. Then it adjusted even more (as did our WR's) as it became clear just how good of a scrambler Johnny was and that it was a common occurrence for him to be running around in the backfield for 7 or 10 seconds.

This year the biggest adjustment will be losing so many experienced WR's and replacing them with more talented ones. If those guys don't know the routes and how to be in the right spot their size and speed won't matter much. Swope was our "zone buster" all year. He knew how to read the defense and find the soft spots. He also had no fear of getting hit over the middle which sadly has cost him his NFL career.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 2:31 pm to
I have nothing to add to this thread other than the battle between Mike Evans and Fulton I believe was a fun one to watch. Both got their share and it was a helluva football battle.


And I think man-to-man is a near impossible scheme against JFFs scrambling. Sure mix it in, but don't rely on it.
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