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re: TAMU fans, the 'Alabama' coach you got in 2002

Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:22 pm to
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Different to you because it wasn't Alabama.



No…different to me because the situations were different. It is well documented that Saban left LSU with some reluctance and it is well documented that Fran was actively trying to leave Alabama as early as November 2001, all the while keeping everyone in the dark about his true feelings while encouraging the upperclassmen to stay onboard while he himself was waiting for the right moment to abandon ship.

You can call me a hypocrite all you want but you'll still be just as wrong every time you do so.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84918 posts
Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:23 pm to
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No…different to me because the situations were different.


Yeah, they are different to you because one was your team and one wasn't. That's really the bottom line, if you were an LSU fan you wouldn't give 2 shits about Fran.

Again all I'm asking for is some consistency. I guess that's too much to ask and I should have known better than to ask for it from you people in the first place.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84918 posts
Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:26 pm to
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You can call me a hypocrite all you want but you'll still be just as wrong every time you do so.



Except I'm actually backing what i say up not doing everything I can to squirm out of my cognitive dissonance by trying to make them out to be totally different.

Yeah I'm sure all of that sucked as an Alabama fan. Guess what though, I don't really care when Fran wanted to leave or who he said what to. THE POINT YET AGAIN IS THIS: we both got burned by coaches in the past yet Alabama fan are the only ones in this scenario trying to tell LSU fans how they should or shouldn't feel about theirs.
This post was edited on 7/27/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6857 posts
Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:29 pm to
Devil's advocate moment

I feel like both LSU AND Alabama fans often forget, this is a BUSINESS. The coaches aren't fans.

It's their job and they do what they think needs to be done. The fact that they don't answer to the same consequences as the students do isn't their fault, its the batshit NCAA rules that students have next to zero in terms of leverage (in fact that's another topic I'd love to go into, but for another thread). Fran had to make everyone "hold the rope" because he was being paid to do so and to his credit, didn't lead us on by signing a huge contract (he was a midwest guy too). Alabama was going to be on probation for years and still under a bowl ban and our recruiting was AWFUL and this was ALL before the 2002 campaign kicked off. I would have been secretly looking for a new job if everything was seemingly going against me. No one knew we'd actually be kind of good that year. Saban did what every college coach has seriously thought about as some point, head to the NFL. No college program is bigger than the NFL and the list of coaches who've succeeded at both is small so it was probably an exciting new challenge for him. When that turned sour, another elite college program, close to his recruiting ties and region, was hiring... with the right offer it was a no-brainer.
This post was edited on 7/27/13 at 2:33 pm
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