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re: New CBS/SEC deal worth same amount as last year
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:03 am to Gradual_Stroke
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:03 am to Gradual_Stroke
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You're a fricking idiot.
That's all you've got? lulz
Oh, and read the post just above this one, the one posted by Texas Horn.
Now, maybe if we had not been deluged for the past year and half, by many aTm fans, about how we were going to see a substantial increase in the CBS deal thanks to aTm being invited into the conference ... then perhaps it would not be so damn funny right now.
Who knows, perhaps it will pay-off when the current contract expires. And I do agree that being released from the 3:30 EST time-slot obligation is a big deal. CBS is getting a bargain, and they'll eventually have to pony-up or risk losing the broadcast rights to the SEC to ABC, who wants the conference badly.
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:20 am to texashorn
I'll bite.
Total falsehood. No basis in reality.
A&M's games pulled the best ratings in Texas this past year, beating out even the sips for Austin's share. A&M's biggest rated game was almost double what texas's was. So sorry.
Finally: This CBS thing is old fricking news. CBS upped the total for the conference to keep up with the addition of 2 new teams, keeping everyone at the same payout as before for Tier One. THE EXPANSION MONEYS WERE NEVER ABOUT TIER ONE. God damn it, its like groundhog day around here with you people. The Tier 2-3 (primarily 3) is what THE WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT. That is the SEC Network. You are a fricking retard if you thought CBS was ever going to pay more for THE SAME AMOUNT OF INVENTORY, A MAX OF 3 GAMES A WEEKEND. The increase in inventory is IN THE TIER THREE. Not surprising a horn wouldn't understand anything about why A&M moving was a good thing for both A&M and the SEC; next you'll be trying to convince people the BigDF is a great conference, and regional TV is better than national.
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Remember, this has always been about money, especially since A&M needs it so badly because the previous athletics department was run into the financial ditch (and the school administration took away the AD's checkbook-signing power, so to speak).
Total falsehood. No basis in reality.
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What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.
A&M's games pulled the best ratings in Texas this past year, beating out even the sips for Austin's share. A&M's biggest rated game was almost double what texas's was. So sorry.
Finally: This CBS thing is old fricking news. CBS upped the total for the conference to keep up with the addition of 2 new teams, keeping everyone at the same payout as before for Tier One. THE EXPANSION MONEYS WERE NEVER ABOUT TIER ONE. God damn it, its like groundhog day around here with you people. The Tier 2-3 (primarily 3) is what THE WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT. That is the SEC Network. You are a fricking retard if you thought CBS was ever going to pay more for THE SAME AMOUNT OF INVENTORY, A MAX OF 3 GAMES A WEEKEND. The increase in inventory is IN THE TIER THREE. Not surprising a horn wouldn't understand anything about why A&M moving was a good thing for both A&M and the SEC; next you'll be trying to convince people the BigDF is a great conference, and regional TV is better than national.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:31 am to cokebottleag
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THE WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT. That is the SEC Network.
But you see, this, too, was largely underwhelming. I think it is comparable what each Big 10 member gets for its network, which is about $8 million/school/year.
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The entire SEC television package including CBS, ESPN and the network is pegged at $400 million per year, which is about $28.5 million per team.
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If you look at what the previous payout was (let's say it was $20 million), that's "only" $8.5 million per SEC team from the network addition.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:36 am to texashorn
Listen, longhorn poll smoker. You are so FULL OF shite it's pathetic. We all SAID ALREADY that CBS would not change. You are spouting your bullshite talking points JUST LIKE WE PREDICTED.
The SEC had the BIGGEST BOOST TO TELEVISION RATINGS LAST YEAR. AUSTIN WAS THE BIGGEST.
EVERYTHING you posted has been proven to be complete bullshite. The fact that your pathetic, t-sip arse is here telling us about it is more proof that your program is on a major spiral to frick-off land.
frick YOU! GET YOUR CUM-STAINED arse OFF THE RANT AND GO BACK TO YOUR LEFT-BEHIND DINGLEBERRIES.
The SEC had the BIGGEST BOOST TO TELEVISION RATINGS LAST YEAR. AUSTIN WAS THE BIGGEST.
EVERYTHING you posted has been proven to be complete bullshite. The fact that your pathetic, t-sip arse is here telling us about it is more proof that your program is on a major spiral to frick-off land.
frick YOU! GET YOUR CUM-STAINED arse OFF THE RANT AND GO BACK TO YOUR LEFT-BEHIND DINGLEBERRIES.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:37 am to cokebottleag
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Remember, this has always been about money, especially since A&M needs it so badly because the previous athletics department was run into the financial ditch (and the school administration took away the AD's checkbook-signing power, so to speak).
Total falsehood. No basis in reality.
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The Texas A&M athletic department lacks control of its finances, according to an audit obtained by the Express-News.
The department "requires significant improvement in its financial controls and processes," according to the 25-page report that reviews a span from September 2007 to December of last year. Six accountants from the A&M system performed the internal audit.
Two high-ranking A&M officials said Wednesday that athletic director Bill Byrne's job was not in jeopardy based on the findings. Byrne, who couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday night, addressed the audit in his weekly online column.
"The auditors also made one very serious observation," Byrne wrote. "During the period under audit, they believed that we had limited monitoring of, and limited accountability for, daily financial operations. And during that time, the auditors were correct."
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A&M athletics is no stranger to fiscal troubles this year. In June, then-university president Elsa Murano revealed as part of her annual review that the university had loaned the athletic department $16 million four years ago, and that the department must follow a strict business plan to now begin repaying the 10-year loan. A month later, Byrne slashed 17 jobs from the athletic department.
The audit reviews the department's fiscal problems on a multitude of fronts and summarizes, "These weaknesses have hindered the Athletic Department's ability to achieve and maintain financial stability."
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The most recent open records request answered by Texas A&M involved documents tied to a $16 million loan given to the Athletic Department - a line of credit made public only because (former A&M President) Murano mentioned it in a self-evaluation during her performance review.
Former president Robert Gates initiated the loan but never signed a contract, prompting Murano to get one signed soon after she learned about within months of taking office.
The documents obtained by the newspaper show at least one request by the Athletic Department to have the loan "forgiven." E-mails and interviews with officials reveal a department in turmoil as the flagship university's finance department takes over the checkbook for the Athletic Department.
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"We don't have a lot of financial maneuverability here in the athletic department right now," Hyman said. "But hopefully, when the [SEC] television network comes on in a couple of years we'll have more flexibility."
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Sure is a lot of smoke there to be no fire, padnuh.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:40 am to texashorn
TELL US HOW OUR AD OWES 16 MILLION DOLLARS AND IS BROKE, YOU BUTTfrickER! TELL US ABOUT HOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO THE SEC. TELL US THAT WE WILL NEVER PASS UP THE ****S IN AUSTIN.
THE LONGHORNS ARE REACHING FOR ANYTHING TO GAIN TRACTION AGAINST THE AGGIES. WELL IT AIN'T HAPPENING, BITCH. YOUR ARROGANT AD AND HIS JAWLS frickED UP BIG TIME LETTING A&M LEAVE YOU WITH ALL THE CHILDREN AND NO CHILD SUPPORT.
EAT A DICK AND GET THE frick OUT OF HERE.
THE LONGHORNS ARE REACHING FOR ANYTHING TO GAIN TRACTION AGAINST THE AGGIES. WELL IT AIN'T HAPPENING, BITCH. YOUR ARROGANT AD AND HIS JAWLS frickED UP BIG TIME LETTING A&M LEAVE YOU WITH ALL THE CHILDREN AND NO CHILD SUPPORT.
EAT A DICK AND GET THE frick OUT OF HERE.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:46 am to KaiserSoze99
I'm kind of like this scrooster fellow, it really wouldn't be so funny if you Aggies hadn't flooded the Internet about how much money you'd be making, etc. etc. etc.
You frickers are legends in your own mind.
You frickers are legends in your own mind.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:48 am to texashorn
You're an Aggie-obsessed moron and you won't find any allies here.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:51 am to texashorn
We have the most profitable athletic department in the country. Tell us again we are broke. Please.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:52 am to texashorn
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Remember, this has always been about money, especially since A&M needs it so badly
TAMU generated the 6th most revenue nationally, and was the most profitable AD in the country in 2012.
Try harder.
ETA: research better, too.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:55 am to DWag215
Especially funny considering Horn is the one in debt.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:58 am to DWag215
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:00 am to texashorn
The key to the SEC network is Texas A&M. You are comparing the network to the B1G after the B1G has established it. Also, let's not forget the financials have not been released.
But you are ignoring the most important part. Without TAMU, the teams would be making less than that. Because you will be charged - assuming you live in Texas - ~$1+ per TV set in the SEC footprint versus something like $.05 or so. That's a lot of money difference in an SEC with TAMU v without.
So, let's recap. Who is correct?
The SEC will make more money with TAMU? This is true. You yourself have admitted as much. Without them the league wouldn't be able to renegotiate. And would be making Big XII type money or less. With TAMU they will be making more money than any league in the nation.
Oh and please check the ratings and tell me how TAMU did. I see a lot of interest coming out of Austin there...
But you are ignoring the most important part. Without TAMU, the teams would be making less than that. Because you will be charged - assuming you live in Texas - ~$1+ per TV set in the SEC footprint versus something like $.05 or so. That's a lot of money difference in an SEC with TAMU v without.
So, let's recap. Who is correct?
The SEC will make more money with TAMU? This is true. You yourself have admitted as much. Without them the league wouldn't be able to renegotiate. And would be making Big XII type money or less. With TAMU they will be making more money than any league in the nation.
Oh and please check the ratings and tell me how TAMU did. I see a lot of interest coming out of Austin there...
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:00 am to texashorn
I read your embarrassingly weak attempt to change numbers.
Facts are facts.
Now, go back to the big 12 board where we left you.
Facts are facts.
Now, go back to the big 12 board where we left you.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:02 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Especially funny considering Horn is the one in debt.
... says the school that's about to go a half-billion dollars in the hole.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:04 am to texashorn
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The entire SEC television package including CBS, ESPN and the network is pegged at $400 million per year, which is about $28.5 million per team.
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That projection is tier 1 and tier 2 + increased bowl revenue -- without the SEC network numbers factored. Yes, I know it stated confusingly in the initial article(probably purposefully).
Let's look at this logically...Current total(tier 1 + tier 2 + bowl revenue) SEC payout = $20 million/school. Sugar Bowl = + $40 million. New playoff = + $? (probably a huge sum to the SEC -- almost certainly more than any other conference since we contribute more of the inventory. If we generally got about $22 mil in the old system, we'll almost certainly get $40+ now). We are renegotiating all our other bowl contracts which expire this year. Those things, in and of themselves, put an extra $100mil into SEC pockets -- or $7.2mil/yr/team just in bowl revenue. That doesn't even account for the reworked tier2 deal with ESPN -- which will be significant.
So, do you really want to argue that the SEC network is only worth about $1mil/yr/team to the conference? Because that's what your article assumes -- if it's factoring the SECnetwork.
I always find hilarity in the idea that "The B1G makes more TV money than the SEC" that people like to spout off without a clue -- while the B1G reported tier1,2,and3 revenue -- while the SEC in the past has only reported tier1and2. People really believe our tier 3 rights have been worthless in the past, but are suddenly going to be worth millions with the new network? Fact is, tier 3 has been a gold mine to the top SEC schools in large markets for many years now.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:06 am to engie
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That projection is tier 1 and tier 2 + increased bowl revenue -- without the SEC network numbers factored. Yes, I know it stated confusingly in the initial article(probably purposefully).
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Some believe the combination of the current contract with CBS and the arrival of the SEC Network will produce in the neighborhood of $400 million in revenue annually — about $28.5 million per conference school.
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:09 am to engie
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Fact is, tier 3 has been a gold mine to the top SEC schools in large markets for many years now.
How much have the A&M third-tier television rights been?
Zero?
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:10 am to texashorn
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How much have the A&M third-tier television rights been?
What difference does it make? I'm not aTm-sessed...
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