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re: Expansion Options

Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:59 pm to
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They may take OU and I never even hinted at their being a second tier school. But that wasn't my argument. If the SEC could only take one, they would take TAMU 10 times out of 10. Please re-read.


But if the SEC could have chosen to get tu/OU or tu/A&M who do you think they would have chosen? OU is still a blue blood, a national brand, with one of the most historic rivalries in all of college football, and provides immense value.
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:01 pm to
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But if the SEC could have chosen to get tu/OU or tu/A&M who do you think they would have chosen? OU is still a blue blood, a national brand, with one of the most historic rivalries in all of college football, and provides immense value.


Now you're changing the entire argument. Of course you choose schools in different states. That's a silly question.

That'd be like asking me if the SEC could take Florida / FSU or Florida / Va Tech who would they take? They'd take Va Tech but not because Va Tech would bring the conference more money than FSU would if each were stand alones, but because the footprint would be increased since you already have Florida.

Again, I am fully aware that OU is a strong brand. But your argument has nothing to do with what I stated, which is 100% accurate. And conferences like the B1G would give 2 shites about that because they don't bring the entire package. TAMU does. Sorry. Call it being lucky to be in such a big state, call it being lucky that we're a strong academic brand, etc. But it's the truth.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 1:18 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34346 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:07 pm to
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But if the SEC could have chosen to get tu/OU or tu/A&M who do you think they would have chosen? OU is still a blue blood, a national brand, with one of the most historic rivalries in all of college football, and provides immense value.


They would take tu/OU, but not just because of OU's history. As has been said a billion times here, the name of the game is total poulation within the footprint, and OU would add 3.8 millon people you don't get with A&M because we overlap with tu.

Now if its a straight up choice between OU and A&M, I still think they would have picked us. Why? Because 25.6 million people is WAY more than 3.8 million people. Sure OU would carry their entire state and we would not carry all of Texas, but there is way more potential in our base then theirs.

The SEC before any expansion happened had the most power programs. The SEC doesn't really need more power programs to sell its brand- they just need footprint. Hence us and Mizzou.

A conference like the ACC or Big 12 DO need power programs to keep the conference stable. But the SEC could probably lose a power program and be just fine given it has so many.

Saying that, the SEC would love to have OU to add those 3.8 million people and to get another big program. They also flew to OU that day in 2010 when our invite was dropped off. They don't need OU though, especially if the price is Okie Lite.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 3:09 pm
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