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re: Baton Rouge DA / Bham Defense Attorney / Fbaum comment on LSU fan assault

Posted on 1/19/12 at 12:25 am to
Posted by randyb
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 12:25 am to
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Lousiana has no place even REMOTELY as high tech as Huntsville which was rated the 9th smartest city in the world last year. Marshal Space Flight Center runs and manages the Michoud Facility in metro New Orleans and does the same with Stennis in Mississippi. Both facilities take their orders from Alabamians at Marshal Space Flight Center in Huntsville.
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Let's talk about your famous high tech Hunstville and how it started. After WWII, the US made a deal with NAZI scientist to work for the US Gov missile program. Why Huntsville, Alabama? Because it was a place to hide the fact from Americans that the father of their space program were actually NAZIs. Who ran the Marshall Space Flight Center but none other than Wernher von Braun. From Wiki "Von Braun worked on the US Army intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) program before his group was assimilated by NASA, under which he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, the superbooster that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon"

How bout Von Braun's past "SS General Hans Kammler, who as an engineer had constructed several concentration camps including Auschwitz, had a reputation for brutality and had originated the idea of using concentration camp prisoners as slave laborers in the rocket program. Arthur Rudolph, chief engineer of the V-2 rocket factory at Peenemünde, endorsed this idea in April 1943 when a labor shortage developed. More people died building the V-2 rockets than were killed by it as a weapon.[34] Von Braun admitted visiting the plant at Mittelwerk on many occasions, and called conditions at the plant "repulsive," but claimed never to have witnessed any deaths or beatings, although it had become clear to him by 1944 that deaths had occurred.[35] He denied ever having visited the Mittelbau-Dora concentration camp itself, where 20,000 died from illness, beatings, hangings and intolerable working conditions.[36]"

You should take comfort in knowing that "operation paperclip" that built Huntsville was the effort of NAZI scientist and the federal government. Through the 1950s Huntsville, due to the German scientists, was probably the smartest city in the world, too bad it is now 9th. I wouldn't say it is Alabamians that are giving orders.

I guess you can say our American German scientist beat the Russian German scientist to the moon.

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Birmingham while it has had its problems in recent years has long had a corporate community that easily outpaced New Orleans. The entire state of Louisiana, much less New Orleans alone, has ever been headquartered to 7 Fortune 500 headquarters at one time as Bham was for many years.
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Excuse me, but Birmingham has but one Fortune 500 Company left and that is Regions Financial. I can tell you as a Regions' stockholder it ain't doing so well. Louisiana currently has three: Entergy, CityLink, and The Shaw Group.

I am not sure you could declare some of those companies real Fortune 500 companies, considering companies like Healthsouth cooked the books and mislead stockholders and investors to get there.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:50 am to
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Let's talk about your famous high tech Hunstville and how it started. After WWII, the US made a deal with NAZI scientist to work for the US Gov missile program. Why Huntsville, Alabama? Because it was a place to hide the fact from Americans that the father of their space program were actually NAZIs. Who ran the Marshall Space Flight Center but none other than Wernher von Braun. From Wiki "Von Braun worked on the US Army intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) program before his group was assimilated by NASA, under which he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, the superbooster that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon"

How bout Von Braun's past "SS General Hans Kammler, who as an engineer had constructed several concentration camps including Auschwitz, had a reputation for brutality and had originated the idea of using concentration camp prisoners as slave laborers in the rocket program. Arthur Rudolph, chief engineer of the V-2 rocket factory at Peenemünde, endorsed this idea in April 1943 when a labor shortage developed. More people died building the V-2 rockets than were killed by it as a weapon.[34] Von Braun admitted visiting the plant at Mittelwerk on many occasions, and called conditions at the plant "repulsive," but claimed never to have witnessed any deaths or beatings, although it had become clear to him by 1944 that deaths had occurred.[35] He denied ever having visited the Mittelbau-Dora concentration camp itself, where 20,000 died from illness, beatings, hangings and intolerable working conditions.[36]"

You should take comfort in knowing that "operation paperclip" that built Huntsville was the effort of NAZI scientist and the federal government. Through the 1950s Huntsville, due to the German scientists, was probably the smartest city in the world, too bad it is now 9th. I wouldn't say it is Alabamians that are giving orders.

I guess you can say our American German scientist beat the Russian German scientist to the moon.


So let me get this straight. Your entire rebuttal is that the U.S. used a former German scientist who happened to work in Germany when the Nazis ruled and this someone refutes or brings shame on Huntsville?? That's like dismissing everything done for years in the Louisiana state legislature because former Grand Wizard of the KKK David Duke was a distinguished member of the Louisiana State legislature. Your argument makes no sense and doesn't refute the fact Alabama residents run Marshal Space Flight Center and therefore runs Michoud and Stennis.


As for Birmingham, the city ALONE had 7 Fortune 500 headquarters as recently as the early 2000s. At the time and for many years prior only Atlanta and Charlotte in the Southeast had more. Furthermore, it's interesting to see in the latest Census figures that came out this week that metro New Orleans is once again losing residents and metro Birmingham is scheduled to pass metro New Orleans in population next year.

And just to be clear I'm not arguing in favor of Bham over New Orleans as a destination. New Orleans has many things as a 400+ year old city that Bham (a 140 year old city) will never have. I personally spend much more time in New Orleans and obviously there is a better food, drink, and festival culture in N.O. My point was only to rebutt the ridiculous idea of LSU posters on this board that Louisiana was all refined culture and sophistication while Alabama was a poor podunk, uneducated, unsophisticated wasteland.
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