Is Petrino that good or is Rivals that Worthless?

Its impossible to rank high school players except for a few of them. imo

ETA: in other words, *'s dont fricking matter.

Arkansas will never be a top 10 recruiting team, don't have the instate talent or national name to do that. Maybe if we go on a roll and win some SEC or NC's but not until then. While I'm sure he'd prefer the freakish highly rated recruits, he finds guys that fits his system and has continually said he looks for smart football players with good measurables, he feels he can mold them once they get on campus. So far, he's done that.

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Gonna be sick since he's about to start pulling in top tier players the next couple years

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From where? Missouri? Texas belongs to UT, LSU has Lousiana, Alabama and Georgia forget about it. but you could poach Mississippi!

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From where? Missouri? Texas belongs to UT, LSU has Lousiana, Alabama and Georgia forget about it. but you could poach Mississippi!

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Arkansas has Arkansas QB's and WR's

A lot of kids don't really get evaluated that much it seems. It's nearly impossible to keep track of the thousands of good kids that play HS ball every year. A lot of kids don't get evaluated til late in the season (e.g. Brandon Allen and he got his 4 stars pretty late). I think the best thing to look at is offer list and measurables (though often those measurables are exaggerated in one way or the other).

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From where? Missouri? Texas belongs to UT, LSU has Lousiana, Alabama and Georgia forget about it. but you could poach Mississippi!

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We've had 4-5 stars from all over, Chicago, CO, AZ, CA, FL, VA, TX, MS etc. etc.

Fulmer was on a local talk show here last week and he compared our situation to theirs in the late 90s of recruiting nationally.

It is what it is. We have to do this, and with Petrino we can better than ever. Being #3 in the nation obviously is helping

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I think I would take Petrino's evals of QBs and WRs over anyone.

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I think the recruiting services are starting to catch on here.

We signed a QB last year, whom everyone in Arkansas said was legit, but Rivals only had him rated as a low 3* in the early rankings. They finally came out and evaluated him at the end of the year and the next day immediately bumped him to a 4* and their #5 overall pro style QB.

Same thing happened this year with a WR we have committed out of OK. The kid had zero offers but came to our summer camp and dominated. The coaches offered him immediately. ESPN and 247 both finally saw tape on him recently and bumped him from low rankings to 4*'s.

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Is Petrino doing more with less, Arky talent undervalued, or both?

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Some of both, but the key is Petrino's evaluation of talent. Doesn't just look at the measurables of ht, wt, 40 time, etc. He places a lot of stock in the overall HS program they come from. How have they been taught to work out, practice, execute assignments? Have they been held accountable by their coaches? Are they coachable? All of that factors in, and could lead to his passing on a 4 or 5 star guy, in favor of someone without quite as much acclaim.

He's a great evaluator of - not just raw talent, but of who will actually be successful at the college level in his system. And obviously, once he gets them on campus, he knows how to get the most out of them.