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re: Former La. Governor Edwin Edwards on Cam Newton Situation

Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by rangers911
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:18 pm to
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so why would the newtons ask for money from moo state, but not auburn? logically? moo st wont pay, so we are going to play for your rival for free? yall dont really believe this is what happened, do you?


Every school involved in Newton's recruitment has said no money was asked but MSU. Every person involved that has released any kind of a statement is an MSU booster or former player. Auburn "lawyered up" before the season started and was in constant contact with the NCAA before the season started. We investigated Cecil, Auburn's staff, and major Auburn boosters, phone records were looked at, emails, and various forms of communication along with financial records and other things. Also note Cecil voluntarily handed over his and his church's statements to the NCAA and to Auburn, Auburn requested them before the season started. After going through everything, with the SEC, NCAA, and our compliance staff and a 3rd party lawyer, nothing was found connectiong Auburn to a pay for play.

There is a possibility that something could be found in the future but as of before the season and the last meeting Auburn was told as long as no one affiliated with Auburn is found to have discussed pay for play Newton "will likely" be ruled eligible at the end of the proceedings.

The FBI is involved due to a slew of other circumstances surrounding the case that given what is out there I'd be very nervous if I was MSU.

Auburn has NEVER been implicated in any of this from day one. All of the information released has implicated MSU. It was finally let out that the "recruiters" were not MSU coaches but MSU coaches were reportedly at the hotel and present when pay for play was discussed. Auburn is guilt by association right now. If Newton asked for money from MSU he must have asked for money from Auburn. Never mind the fact Auburn did a MASSIVE investigation that was joined by the NCAA and SEC and found nothing. Also OU and UT have come out and said nothing out of the ordinary on their recruitment of Cam. Everything in the public right now points at MSU yet people are making ASSumptions that Auburn ultimately paid.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:32 pm to
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Every school involved in Newton's recruitment has said no money was asked but MSU.


Bob Stoops said he was never asked for money. Was Dan Mullen ever asked for money? Wouldn't it be stupid to blatantly ask the head coach for money? Whenever something illegal goes down with the college football, the chain of command is set up so that the head coach would have no idea that this or that was going on. How come it's always some low-level assistant coach who takes the fall when some NCAA violation occurs. So yes, when you ask a head coach whether he was approached for money from a recruit's family, of course he's going to say, "No."
This post was edited on 11/14/10 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:41 pm to
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Every school involved in Newton's recruitment has said no money was asked but MSU. Every person involved that has released any kind of a statement is an MSU booster or former player. Auburn "lawyered up" before the season started and was in constant contact with the NCAA before the season started. We investigated Cecil, Auburn's staff, and major Auburn boosters, phone records were looked at, emails, and various forms of communication along with financial records and other things. Also note Cecil voluntarily handed over his and his church's statements to the NCAA and to Auburn, Auburn requested them before the season started. After going through everything, with the SEC, NCAA, and our compliance staff and a 3rd party lawyer, nothing was found connectiong Auburn to a pay for play.

There is a possibility that something could be found in the future but as of before the season and the last meeting Auburn was told as long as no one affiliated with Auburn is found to have discussed pay for play Newton "will likely" be ruled eligible at the end of the proceedings.

The FBI is involved due to a slew of other circumstances surrounding the case that given what is out there I'd be very nervous if I was MSU.

Auburn has NEVER been implicated in any of this from day one. All of the information released has implicated MSU. It was finally let out that the "recruiters" were not MSU coaches but MSU coaches were reportedly at the hotel and present when pay for play was discussed. Auburn is guilt by association right now. If Newton asked for money from MSU he must have asked for money from Auburn. Never mind the fact Auburn did a MASSIVE investigation that was joined by the NCAA and SEC and found nothing. Also OU and UT have come out and said nothing out of the ordinary on their recruitment of Cam. Everything in the public right now points at MSU yet people are making ASSumptions that Auburn ultimately paid.


Did not read....

1) Cecil solicited Pay-for-Play cash.
2) Cam is inelligible.
3) Auburn Played Cam.
4) Auburn will forfeit/vacate all wins where Cam played.

This is the ABSOLUTE minimum that will happen to Auburn. If more is uncovered, Auburn will receive more sanctions.

Auburn knowingly and willfully playing an ineligible player is screwing other teams and players from the rightful cance at success. They have openned themsleves up to civil suit IMO.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53914 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:49 pm to
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We investigated Cecil, Auburn's staff, and major Auburn boosters, phone records were looked at, emails, and various forms of communication along with financial records and other things. Also note Cecil voluntarily handed over his and his church's statements to the NCAA and to Auburn, Auburn requested them before the season started. After going through everything, with the SEC, NCAA, and our compliance staff and a 3rd party lawyer, nothing was found connectiong Auburn to a pay for play.


That is called having you lawyers go through everything to make sure that you covered all of your bases. The FBI calls it doctoring the books however.

I had an FBI agent tell me a few years ago that a case involving records (what they refer to as a document case) is the easiest case to track down and prosecute because there is no way for someone to cover their tracks even with the best attorneys looking over their information. There is alwyas something that they forget to do and that is what gets them.

If you will notice the FBI has sat back and allowed everyone else to make statement. They love it when people come forward and start talking, they just sit back and take notes.

Cecils story changed 4 times on the record in 9 days do you really think this idiot can cover his tracks?
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