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re: CAMGATE - What YOU need to know

Posted on 11/14/10 at 10:55 am to
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 10:55 am to
perhaps a pretty important thing to consider in all this is the actual rules alleged to have been broken and the effect on a recruits eligibility.

here is the 2010-2011 ncaa D1 manual

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the rules being referenced by many of the auburn fans is this one:

"13.01.1 E ligibility Effects of Recruiting Violation. The recruitment of a student-athlete by a member
institution or any representative of its athletics interests in violation of the Association’s legislation, as acknowledged
by the institution or established through the Association’s enforcement procedures, shall result in the
student-athlete becoming ineligible to represent that institution in intercollegiate athletics. The Committee on
Student-Athlete Reinstatement may restore the eligibility of a student involved in such a violation only when circumstances
clearly warrant restoration. A student is responsible for his or her involvement in a violation of NCAA
regulations during the student’s recruitment, and involvement in a major violation (see Bylaw 19.02.2.2) may
cause the student to become permanently ineligible for intercollegiate athletics competition at that institution."

this would indicate that the individual in question is only ineligible to participate at that institution from which money was requested. this would clearly cause cam to be unable to play at msu, but not effect his eligibility at other schools.

however, theres more rules:

credit to LTDan for bringing these to light

10.1 UNETHICAL CONDUCT
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member (e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited to, the following: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/9/96, 2/22/01)
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)

10.4 DISCIPLINARY ACTION [#]
Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for restoration of eligibility. (See Bylaw 10.3.2 for sanctions of student-athletes involved in violations of Bylaw 10.3.)Institutional staff members found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be subject to disciplinary or corrective action as set forth in Bylaw 19.5.2.2 of the NCAA enforcement procedures, whether such violations occurred at the certifying institution or during the individual’s previous employment at another member institution.

heres where it gets interesting. if the recruit involved has "knowing involvement" they would be ineligible to play at any school. this would indicate that if the rumors of cam stating that "the money was too much" to be true, he would then be ineligible to participate at auburn.

please note, the burden of proof for the ncaa is not the same as a court of law. the ncaa chooses to interpret their rules how they see fit. with or without tapes, they could choose to declare cam ineligible, but the simple act of his father shopping him to msu doesnt necessarily make him ineligible to play at auburn. a case which has been widely referenced to prove this point is the albert means case, where his services were being unknowingly shopped by his high school coach, which caused him to become ineligible at alabama, however, means continued his collegiate career at memphis. again note, this is a similar, but not identical case.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 1:22 pm to
You know what is really neat about rules? You can include catch-alls like this.


quote:

10.1 UNETHICAL CONDUCT
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member (e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited to, the following: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/9/96, 2/22/01)
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)


So...hanging your hat on the "knowing involvement" element isn't going to get you anywhere. The NCAA doesn't follow precedent like courts of law, and they have a catch-all in the unethical conduct statute.
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