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Reason for Arkansas' Future Struggle
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:51 am
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:51 am
As all Arkansas fans like to point out, Houston Nutt's recruiting rankings were never mind blowing in Fayete Vegas. It is the assumption of all Hog fans that he will eventually have Ole Miss at mediocre at best very soon.
With that being said, I look at Bobby Petrino's failures against Top 25 Big Least opponents and it has me wondering. If Bobby P can't beat Top 25 Big Least teams, can he really compete in the West with Top 25 talent week in and week out.
I mean, if we're going on past performances, then it's all assumed that Nutt will struggle in the future with recruiting and Bobby P will suck against teams in the Top 25 and thus never compete in the SEC West?
If it's all assumed, then this must be the case for Arkansas' and Ole Miss' future
With that being said, I look at Bobby Petrino's failures against Top 25 Big Least opponents and it has me wondering. If Bobby P can't beat Top 25 Big Least teams, can he really compete in the West with Top 25 talent week in and week out.
I mean, if we're going on past performances, then it's all assumed that Nutt will struggle in the future with recruiting and Bobby P will suck against teams in the Top 25 and thus never compete in the SEC West?
If it's all assumed, then this must be the case for Arkansas' and Ole Miss' future
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:52 am to PharmacistReb
Petrino has been to a bcs bowl.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:53 am to pioneerbasketball
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Petrino has been to a bcs bowl.
So has Boise State but I wouldn't like their odds week in and week out against LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Alabma, Florida, etc.
Now, explain why Petrino will all of a sudden have a knack for beating Top 25 opponents
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:55 am to PharmacistReb
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Now, explain why Petrino will all of a sudden have a knack for beating Top 25 opponents
Please post the record.
Explain how nutt doesn't have a winning record against vandy.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:57 am to pioneerbasketball
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pioneerbasketball
I'm gonna take your side on this one.
Though a rock has more personality, Petrino is a good coach and recruiter. I don't think his teams are going to play like an SEC defense. But they will put up tons of points when they get the right talent in. I think Petrino will be good at Arkansas. I don't see him taking you to a BCS bowl unless Mallett is a lot better than expected.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:57 am to pioneerbasketball
Exactly, we're all assuming here right?
Then Nutt will continue to lose to Vandy and Petrino will continue to lose to Top 25 teams and thus fail to never compete in the West.
I'm just thinking like a Hog
Then Nutt will continue to lose to Vandy and Petrino will continue to lose to Top 25 teams and thus fail to never compete in the West.
I'm just thinking like a Hog
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:58 am to inelishaitrust
Arkansas has never had a decent defense.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:59 am to pioneerbasketball
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Explain how nutt doesn't have a winning record against vandy.
Vandy is fricking pesky, that's why.
Coach O went 1-2 against Vandy. I don't think Cutcliffe ever lost to Vandy. Not once.
Vandy recently lowered it's academic standards and can attract better players, for one thing.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:59 am to PharmacistReb
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Exactly, we're all assuming here right?
Then why did you bring it up?
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:59 am to inelishaitrust
Cut lost to Vandy in 03
Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:59 am to PharmacistReb
And 99 I think. Cutt lost to Vandy twice
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:00 pm to inelishaitrust
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Vandy is fricking pesky, that's why
So pesky that mcfadden and jones had a combined 1 carry against them in 05.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:00 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Then why did you bring it up?
Because it's always assumed that Nutt will fail as a recruiter. If I go off assumption, like Arkansas fans do, then Bobby P will ultimately fail against SEC talent due to his history against Top 25 talent
Would you agree?
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:01 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Arkansas has never had a decent defense.
I disagree. Arkansas had a damn good defense in the Matt Jones era. The reason I think Nutt is so succsessful is because he has better OC's with Austin and Nix than he ever had at Arkansas. (except Malzahn)
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:01 pm to PharmacistReb
'Scuse me, Cutt didn't lose to Vandy in 03. I'm thinking Memphis
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:02 pm to PharmacistReb
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Because it's always assumed that Nutt will fail as a recruiter.
He has. Why is it that a team with 5 wins in a smaller recruiting base has a better class than nutt with a cotton bowl win and 9 wins with a bigger recruiting pool?
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Bobby P will ultimately fail against SEC talent due to his history against Top 25 talent
Please post his record vs top 25.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:03 pm to PharmacistReb
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Cut lost to Vandy in 03
No he didn't
Cut lost to Memphis in 03
We went 10-3 (7-1) with losses to Memphis (DeAngelo Williams), Texas Tech, and eventual national champion LSU.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:04 pm to inelishaitrust
Arkansas defense was average.Never had a top 25 defense. More like a bend don't break.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:08 pm to pioneerbasketball
Ok, so we've come to two conclusions then. I'm glad you're willing to accept truths based off historical evidence.
1) Nutt won't recruit
2) Petrino will fail to compete in the West due to his inability to win against Top 25
1) Nutt won't recruit
2) Petrino will fail to compete in the West due to his inability to win against Top 25
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:10 pm to PharmacistReb
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2) Petrino will fail to compete in the West due to his inability to win against Top 25
Petrino has only coached one year in the sec west.
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