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re: Why do SEC fans think the Pac 10 is weak?

Posted on 1/11/09 at 8:53 am to
Posted by JohnStOnge
Prarieiville, LA
Member since Feb 2008
132 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 8:53 am to
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In all seriousness though, as you probably already know, Mark Twain wrote one time something about lies, damned lies , and statistics. The point being of course that you can 'gerrymander' statistics to justify just about any position in a debate.


I don't think that's true. I think statistical "lying" can be detected and exposed.

But the perception is why I listed all the results including the record of each team within its own conference. It's objectively true that the record is 10-7 Pac 10. It's objectively true that the series involved more SEC teams with winning conference records (11) than Pac 10 teams of that type (7). It's objectively true that there were 9 games such that the SEC team had a better record in its own conference than the Pac 10 team did vs. 5 games where the reverse is true. It's objectively true that there were three games where the teams had identical conference records and the Pac 10 won all three of those games. So on and so forth.

Can you see any possible way to interpret the results, while taking how well each team did within its own conference into account, as suggesting SEC superiority?
This post was edited on 1/11/09 at 9:01 am
Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
4966 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:07 am to
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Pac 10 teams other than USC went 6-7 vs. the SEC. SEC teams other than LSU went 3-10 against the Pac 10.


Why do this? USC is above and beyond any other PAC-10 team, they could do well in the SEC. LSU is not the dominate force in the SEC like USC is in the PAC-10.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2409 posts
Posted on 1/11/09 at 9:49 am to
Just because SEC fans (and most unbiased observers) feel like the SEC is the toughest football conference doesn't mean they think the Pac-10 is necessarily weak. Its just not as strong. What you will find is that when fans get in pissing matches, say, on in internet message board like this one, not only will they the SEC is the best, they will also say the Pac-10 is a dog.

The Big 12 and the SEC are generally considered to be the two toughest conferences. Based on head to head competition this year, you could make a strong argument that the Mountain West conference is better than the Pac 10, but, overall, I wouldn't buy it.

I hope you're writing some sort of paper on all of this. I really do.
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