Using end of season rankings, which again nobody ever uses when citing Kelly's record against Top 25 teams or Top 10 teams.

Always moving the goalposts. Just saying.

And I'm not picking on you for using end of season rankings, but again what everybody always talks about is playing at the time when it comes to citing Kelly's records in the past, which was 4 in 2018. Then there's always the argument Stanford WOULD have ended the season ranked had ND not beat them, etc. I understand using either method to a degree, but just being consistent on what people actually cite when it comes to his past.

But point is their schedule usually isnt nearly as bad as people make it out to be. No it isnt an SEC slate with 2-3 Top 10 teams every year, but they also avoid playing the creampuffs the SEC plays as well. They dont play rent-a-wins quite like the SEC does OOC, but yes they do avoid playing more top level teams than an SEC team would.

But to any end point here, Kelly came into the SEC in year 1 with a severely gimped LSU team and won the SEC West getting to Atlanta. So kind of a moot point anyways.

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Posted by 3down10

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Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:33 am to thunderbird1100

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Using end of season rankings, which again nobody ever uses when citing Kelly's record against Top 25 teams or Top 10 teams.

Always moving the goalposts. Just saying.

I always use end of season rankings because I'm not going to sit around and pretend beating a 6-7 team is beating a "ranked team" or that a team that finished the season 9-4 and unranked was a "top 10 win".

Maybe you should point out to the people doing those other stats that their stats are kind of bullshite because they aren't using end of season rankings, rather than trying to dismiss me for doing it right.

Most people just use them because it's easier that way. Takes time looking up end of season games, but if you are going to cite just a few games why wouldn't you?

Notre Dames schedules of the 2000's were brutal. Notre Dames schedules of the 2010 were in fact rather easy. They aren't in a conference so they played teams like USC and Michigan every year. And they were good in the 2000's. And they still put in good OOC(meaning not their normal teams) games against top10 opponents every year. Even Stanford was good for awhile under Harbaugh.

By the 2010's, Michigan was not good, USC is and has been in the dumps, etc. They still had somewhat decent "OOC" opponent, but that was about it. And eventually they did the ACC thing but that basically just means playing Clemson every now and then.

Much easier schedules.

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