I posted numerous links showing him as the 4th-7th QB in the 25 class. Including evaluations of his 2023 season. I give him all the credit it the world for being tall enough and he has an NFL arm but every evaluation I’ve seen has the same negatives of hesitation, not mobile, inexperience, inconsistency in his mechanics, gets happy feet. It’s like reading a taller Jake Fromms analysis. And even in a weak draft class he’s at best the 4th QB taken, a mid 3rd round guy.

As for the stats, the giants were terrible this year and Hyatt was the 3rd best WR they had statswise as a rookie. The Browns played 5 different QBs this year and again Tillman was the 3rd leading WR for them in limiting playing time. While not setting the record books on fire that still significant. And it’s better than McConkey is likely to do. I’ll wait on the combine to see the measurements because I’ve seen anything from 5’10 185 to 6’205 and his 40 seems to be in the 4.6 range. Not really a recipe for success in the NFL. As for where he’s taken? I would suspect if he’s really 6’ and can get down around 4.5 40 he might be a 3rd-4th round. If he’s really 5’10 and 180ish 4th- UDFA.

Use status to check where the Giants and Browns were offensively. Both were terrible with no answer at QB.

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Posted by koreandawg

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Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:58 pm to Smokeyone

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Use status to check where the Giants and Browns were offensively. Both were terrible with no answer at QB.

They were terrible because they don't have good players. Amari Cooper somehow found a way to be productive in the offense. Njoku was one of the best TEs this year in production.

The Browns were just below the median team in passing offense this year.

The Colts were worse but Downs was much better than Tillman.
The Ravens were worse, but Flowers was one of the best WRs in the NFL.

Would you like to bet that Hyatt and Tillman receive a second contract? The odds are against them. You can look at the stats where they rank their first year and most of the players ranked there as rookies are gone in three or four years.

Giants offense was bad, but bad players play on bad offenses.

You gave four links. Here are the dates for those links.

NFL draft buzz qb rankings: Have no idea who they use or how respected they are. But this one is at least from January.

Bleacher Report: This is from this year, but it doesn't contradict anything stated before. It says that next year's class is weaker at QB. It does not say Beck will not be a first round pick. It actually what I stated as the reason he's coming back as there is a much greater chance for him to be the first QB taken.

Pro Football Network: Like BR, this one literally says Beck is one of the top three QBs in next year's class. I fail to see how this proves anything. Also, the story is from November.

And finally Walterfootball: A post from seven months ago from the same guy who I have previously linked in a post from January that has Carson going in the first round of the NFL draft. Your link literally from seven months ago, which is early July and before Beck had started one game at QB.

I never said you didn't post several sources. I said all but one of them were complete shite.

You're great with sources Smoke!!!

Update: First rounders usually make their second contract.