re: By the logic of some here…shouldn’t Penix win the Heisman?

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Agreed and you highlight my point…one needs to look at the numbers and other data than simply saying Penix is “deserving” of the Heisman because of his team going undefeated. Because at this point that is 100% the argument we are hearing from the Bama haters as to why FSU should be in the CFP and not Bama.

One can’t legitimately argue that FSU being undefeated is all that should matter with a close call in the CFP then turn around and claim JD should win the Heisman in a close call with Penix given Washington is undefeated…

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I get what you are saying and agree with it to an extent; but you're comparing an individual award with an award (who gets into the playoffs) that goes to a TEAM. Its not really the same thing. Wins and losses attributed to one player when he plays on just one side of the ball isn't the same as talking about wins and losses attributed to a team.