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re: Is this best it gets for LSU for a while?

Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:18 pm to
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The big problem for Kelly is the recruiting disaster he inherited from Coach O. Finished 6th last year, currently 10th this year in recruiting. That's not bad if you're in any other conference but the SEC. Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Oklahoma finished above LSU in the 2023 class. Perhaps they get a higher hit rate or some of the others missed more than normal...it happens...but he's in a predicament. The roster was behind Alabama and Georgia when he got there and he's going to need to out hit several great recruiting staffs to make up the deficit unless he starts just purely signing higher quality from the outset (finishing at the top for a few seasons).

He's a good coach though. Only 2 sub-.500 seasons in a head coaching career spanning 5 decades. I think we're going to discover over the Freeman tenure at ND that what Kelly did at Notre Dame in the modern era was spectacular coaching. Freeman is 7-3 with the first genuinely good QB at ND since the mid-aughts. Kelly would probably have that team 10-0 right now.


This is the problem, Kirby and Saban have too much of a head start at this point.

BK can beat either of them him or there, if he catches them at the right time, but he will never "dominate" either.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:27 pm to
Not sure why you were downvoted. It's the truth. But, he can set the conditions for his follow-on coach.

I was going to make a joke that CBK was too entrenched in the good coaching zone for a NC at LSU when it's proven it takes an elite coach (Saban) or an incompetent, but likable one (Miles or O) to reach the pinnacle at LSU. But, it's clear people don't like facts or friendly jabs here.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6015 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:27 pm to
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This is the problem, Kirby and Saban have too much of a head start at this point.

BK can beat either of them him or there, if he catches them at the right time, but he will never "dominate" either.


I think over time that LSU fans will come to see Coach O less as the emotional figurehead of one the truly great college football teams and more as the man who fumbled the bag that led to a serious talent deficit between LSU and their biggest competitors.

Miles was completely arse-backwards on where offensive football was heading but he had a program that consistently brought in top talent that fit the program and the competition in the conference. Coach O seemingly recruited similarly but it was clear at the end he was recruiting 5 star athletes with 1-star fit.

LSU was right there with Alabama and Georgia in the late 2010s. Today they're right there in spots but not the full 85. That's ultimately on Coach O. Kelly took over and had like 45-50 players on scholarship due to busts transferring out.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 1:33 pm
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