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re: The Top 5 greatest college baseball programs of all time
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:28 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:28 pm to Cheese Grits
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They both cheat at the highest levels?
Not saying Wooden was a bad coach. He was a respectable ~.65 over his career prior to Sam "Papa" Gilbert joining UCLA. Suddenly Wooden jumps from ~.65 to ~.95 and goes on his decade run. Sam Gilbert was a known mobster and yet Wooden got to keep all the banners.
USC has been proven to cheat in all sports and was a clear case of "loss of institutional control" worthy of the Death Penalty. USC was cheating at Women's Soccer and Volleyball in addition to the major sports.
If a SEC school did what UCLA or USC did, the NCAA would have burned it all down and salted the earth after.
Tell me you typed the bolded part with a straight face, and didn't do it while sitting in the passenger seat of a Dodge Charger.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:19 am to Beached Tusky
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Tell me you typed the bolded part with a straight face, and didn't do it while sitting in the passenger seat of a Dodge Charger.
That may some Alabama level cheating but it pales in comparison to Southern Cal and UCLA.
The PCC was disbanded for cheating so rampant. Ironically when it reformed to become the PAC the only 2 schools in the conference ho had not cheated were not asked to join the PAC.
Here is the Wik page for "Papa" Sam.
Known as "Papa Sam" and "Papa G" to UCLA players, he opened up his Bel-Air, Los Angeles home to the players and became an advisor to many. He bought clothes, cars, and even arranged abortions for players' girlfriends.
Wooden came to UCLA in the 48 - 49 season and was winning 16-22 games a season. Papa Sam shows up in the 1960's and UCLA start losing 1 to 2 games a year on average. Sure seems like Sam was the key to UCLA winning all those banners, not Wooden.
Bill Walton said in an interview he made more at UCLA than he ever made in the pros, but later denied making the statement.
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