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Yes, however, he would have been eligible immediately as a grad transfer under the previous rules as well as would have several other transfer players Kelly signed. Joe Foucha was a 4 -year player at Arkansas. Mekhi Garner was a 3 year player at ULL after a year of JUCO. Noah Cain graduated in 3 years at Penn St (was academic all-big 10 every year), Sevyn Banks was a 4 year player at OSU.

That's a fair point. The only thing I'd add is that with the new portal rules, there are more eyes in there than in years past, which means you'll have guys seeking transfers that may not have been tempted to do so in years past. Even that has changed with the new rules. Since I don't know what those 5 players that you listed would have done in years past, I won't assume anything there. I just wanted to mention that the portal has changed a lot of things in college football, which is why I think the game is different for Kelly than the coaches that joined years ago.

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The only guys who transferred (and actually play) who would have had to sit out under the old rules are Greg Brooks (Arkansas), Mekhi Wingo (Missouri), Kyren Lacey (ULL)

No others transferred in that would have had to sit under the old rules that either played or were available for depth?

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But we also lost Eli Ricks (starter), Max Johnson (starter), Dwight McGlothern (starter), Trey Palmer, Corey Kiner, Devonta Lee (grades but would have transferred regardless), Koy Moore, and a ton of younger players.

Yes, and that's the downside of the portal that everyone has to face these days. That wouldn't have been a factor under the old rules, which is why I don't care as much about that. Kelly is operating under the new rules, which is the entire point of me separating him from the other names on that list.

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Posted by lsufball19

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Posted on 12/5/22 at 3:22 pm to FooManChoo

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No others transferred in that would have had to sit under the old rules that either played or were available for depth?

I left out one, Miles Frazier from FIU

Others were:

Slade Roy - long snapper
West Weeks - special teams only outside our game with Southern and New Mexico
Jay Bramblett - punter, graduated in 3 years at Notre Dame
Tre'mond Shorts - saw no game action
Jarrick Bernard - grad transfer from OSU, did play a lot at DB
Kolbe Fields - only saw game time against Southern and New Mexico

That's the remainder of all our transfers this past cycle not already mentioned.

We lost 17 players to the portal and another 10 the the NFL draft plus a handful of others due to normal attrition. I think our final number of scholarship players this year was around 70 after Kelly taking the job with 38-39. He scooped up about as many as was realistic, but still have a ways to get to get back to a full 85. Depth has been a big problem this season, especially on the DL, and you saw that play out at the tail end of the season with those guys getting pushed around. Hard to go through 13 games with 5-6 guys in a 4 man rotation on the line, especially losing arguably your best DL in the first quarter of the first game of the season (Maason Smith)

I think Kelly squeezed about as much out of this group this season as he could, and he outperformed what I expected him to TBH. I thought LSU would be fighting for bowl eligibility and had a ceiling of around 7-5 in the regular season and 3-4 conference wins.

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